Nice score. Looks like the perfect 1st truck. Clean enough you can shine it up and take a girl out, not so clean your scared to scratch it up.
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Possible carb problems dying while driving, any ideas?
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Jessie James
1/2 ton status
Yeah, looks like a good starting truck. Glad to hear you found something nice!
K5trs
1/2 ton status
Thanks Jessie! I'll probably be depending on your knowledge throughout this project!
In the mean time what small things should I upgrade/replace?
In the mean time what small things should I upgrade/replace?
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My philosophy has always been that if it stops and steers, then the basics are OK. I'll worry about it running and the doors staying on later.
Concentrate on making sure the steering is tight and secure and the brakes are reliable.
Its OK to note other problems while checking that stuff out.
That belief comes from riding or driving vehicles that lost brakes or steering. One memorial occasion both.......
Of course, it depends on where you are. My old Jeep would regularly lose brakes at least twice a year.
Not from lack of maintenance, just from the terrain I drove it in.
Many times I had no brakes all during an entire hunting season.
But it was being driven in deep swamps with soft mud and lots of small trees to hit when I needed to stop.
Once it had to go on pavement, I would fix whatever was broken.
Concentrate on making sure the steering is tight and secure and the brakes are reliable.
Its OK to note other problems while checking that stuff out.
That belief comes from riding or driving vehicles that lost brakes or steering. One memorial occasion both.......
Of course, it depends on where you are. My old Jeep would regularly lose brakes at least twice a year.
Not from lack of maintenance, just from the terrain I drove it in.
Many times I had no brakes all during an entire hunting season.
But it was being driven in deep swamps with soft mud and lots of small trees to hit when I needed to stop.
Once it had to go on pavement, I would fix whatever was broken.
smier
1/2 ton status
Pay close attention to the B pillar area where the front seatbelts mount, the top seals often leak... The water hides behind the interior panels and collects in the footwell area in front of the rear seat. It just sits there dampening the insulation under the carpet and rusting away. Another common problem area is the rear tail pan that the tailgate bolts to. Wish someone had told you to pull the carpet and check those areas before you bought it, I hope you're not in for a surprise!
Don't get ahead of yourself, brakes and a thorough inspection first. This can get expensive really quick. Then a thorough tune up/going over. Start with safety and the basic stuff before mods and upgrades.
K5trs
1/2 ton status
Ya thats the plan! I'm taking it in tomorrow for a basic inspection. I've lifted the carpet some and I haven't seen rust yet *fingers crossed*
And what's the best way to go about making a build/question thread? Should I just make a build thread in the driveway an ask questions? I'm not planning to be doing any major work right now because I'm busy but it would be little things. What would the best way of setting up a thread be?
And what's the best way to go about making a build/question thread? Should I just make a build thread in the driveway an ask questions? I'm not planning to be doing any major work right now because I'm busy but it would be little things. What would the best way of setting up a thread be?
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Just a garage thread. U can get it changed later
smier
1/2 ton status
X2. It's always nice to follow the story as it progresses!
K5trs
1/2 ton status
Let the games begin..
Well guys I can't get her to start. I attempted to start it once last night and it started then proceeded to die after a few seconds. When I tried it again it would just turnover, and a choke (warning light?) came on. This is the first time it's done that. It's getting gas I believe..I can smell it Atleast. What should I try?
Well guys I can't get her to start. I attempted to start it once last night and it started then proceeded to die after a few seconds. When I tried it again it would just turnover, and a choke (warning light?) came on. This is the first time it's done that. It's getting gas I believe..I can smell it Atleast. What should I try?
wasted wages
1 ton status
It needs 5 things to run.....
fuel - spark - air - compression - and all these things at the right time (timing)
If you see fuel spraying down the intake....then that's good.......
It's gotta be one of the next 4 things..
fuel - spark - air - compression - and all these things at the right time (timing)
If you see fuel spraying down the intake....then that's good.......
It's gotta be one of the next 4 things..
K5trs
1/2 ton status
Where do I begin?
wasted wages
1 ton status
pull a spark plug wire.....
stick a screwdriver in the end of the wire and lay it down on the engine with the metal shaft of the screw driver close to,,but not touching any metal...
say about 1/4 to 1/2 inch away.
have some one crank the truck while you watch the screwdriver.....you should see a nice blue spark jump the gap between the shaft of the screwdriver and the engine...
be careful... it's only about 50,000 volts....
you could also get your little brother or sister to hold onto the wire while you crank it.....they will let you know if it has spark...
seriously......don't do the last suggestion........
stick a screwdriver in the end of the wire and lay it down on the engine with the metal shaft of the screw driver close to,,but not touching any metal...
say about 1/4 to 1/2 inch away.
have some one crank the truck while you watch the screwdriver.....you should see a nice blue spark jump the gap between the shaft of the screwdriver and the engine...
be careful... it's only about 50,000 volts....
you could also get your little brother or sister to hold onto the wire while you crank it.....they will let you know if it has spark...
seriously......don't do the last suggestion........
wasted wages
1 ton status
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smier
1/2 ton status
It may also be worth a call to the previous owner, if he's not a d*ck, he may be able to give you some advice. Some old worn out carb'd vehicles will be quirky... I've had some old clunkers that you had to do almost a ritual to get them to start.
Smelling fuel? You may have it flooded, or a fuel leak and it's not getting what it needs. I forgot how much I don't miss carbs!!! Hang in there, one step at a time. Spark, fuel, and air. Speaking of air, does this thing have a manual or electric choke?
Smelling fuel? You may have it flooded, or a fuel leak and it's not getting what it needs. I forgot how much I don't miss carbs!!! Hang in there, one step at a time. Spark, fuel, and air. Speaking of air, does this thing have a manual or electric choke?
K5trs
1/2 ton status
It has an old school auto choke in there. Its mechanical I believe. There is a cracked fuel line I believe, but it's started with that problem up till now. How would I check compression?
You ever owned anything with a carb before? If not, there is a learning curve. And it takes a slight amount of mechanical knowledge to own/operate a vehicle with a carb. Most of the people on this site have been dealing with carbs all their lives and it's like second nature. They forget that you just bought this truck, are fairly new to owning a vehicle of this age, and you may not know to check the basic carb related things (flooded, choke stuck, choke not set for cold start up, etc...) before throwing out advice.
Not saying any of this to insult you or anyone giving advice. But for those giving advice, remember that sometimes we have beginners here.
Quick diag via the internets... It ran yesterday, most of what the engine needs to run should be good. You smell fuel, could just be flooded, could be no spark... either way, sounds like you are getting fuel. Did you pump the gas before turning the key? This sets the choke for cold start up and also primes the intake with some fuel. Did you pump too much, pump while cranking? This can dump too much fuel into the intake. Try putting your foot on the gas pedal all the way to the floor, hold it there while cranking. Does the engine crank over at increasing speed and try to start? Does it start and clear out with a bit of revving/feathering the gas?
Now that I've typed all that, let me go back to the beginning to make sure I'm talking to the young kid that was looking for a K5, working all summer to buy one, then bought an 84 or so carbed K5....
edit: you are the one I was thinking of.
Not saying any of this to insult you or anyone giving advice. But for those giving advice, remember that sometimes we have beginners here.
Quick diag via the internets... It ran yesterday, most of what the engine needs to run should be good. You smell fuel, could just be flooded, could be no spark... either way, sounds like you are getting fuel. Did you pump the gas before turning the key? This sets the choke for cold start up and also primes the intake with some fuel. Did you pump too much, pump while cranking? This can dump too much fuel into the intake. Try putting your foot on the gas pedal all the way to the floor, hold it there while cranking. Does the engine crank over at increasing speed and try to start? Does it start and clear out with a bit of revving/feathering the gas?
Now that I've typed all that, let me go back to the beginning to make sure I'm talking to the young kid that was looking for a K5, working all summer to buy one, then bought an 84 or so carbed K5....
edit: you are the one I was thinking of.
K5trs
1/2 ton status
Ya I'm the kid haha. It is my first carbed vehicle. I attempted to start it this morning with no luck as well. Toeing the gas while trying to start doesn't seem to help either, it use to start with 0-2 pumps pretty easily and now it doesn't which seems strange. But it's my first experience with an old vehicle you guys know so much about! So I'll follow your advice and do the things you say!
Try what I wrote above. Don't "toe the gas" put it to the floor and hold it there while cranking. This will clear a flood in most cases.
Do you know proper "cold start" procedure for a carbed engine? Did your truck come with an owners manual? It's worth a read through if it did. It'll have things like the proper cold start procedure in it and clear flood too.
For all we know the choke is not set properly on that carb either. Or you could have no spark. I'm just trying to start you off with the basics before you go tearing into things looking for a problem that may or may not exist.
Tell us, also, in whatever detail you can, what is your overall mechanical ability?
Do you know proper "cold start" procedure for a carbed engine? Did your truck come with an owners manual? It's worth a read through if it did. It'll have things like the proper cold start procedure in it and clear flood too.
For all we know the choke is not set properly on that carb either. Or you could have no spark. I'm just trying to start you off with the basics before you go tearing into things looking for a problem that may or may not exist.
Tell us, also, in whatever detail you can, what is your overall mechanical ability?
I would imagine it's flooded. Have you ever owned/driven a carbureted vehicle before?
Martin
Martin
