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Pretty 4X4s VS Ugly 4x4's

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Now I'm sure you were to take a cross section of the wheeling community, polled them on what you said to illicit such a response, I will safely say that a majority will take it the same way.



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no...no one took it like that but you. all you are doing is furthering your repuation for starting needless fawkingshit. Deal with the fact that I don't like sand and mud and move on with your life. please.
 
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To Bubba and Zakk: My father started building his Jeep in 1960.. It is a 56 willy’s. He built that Jeep for one reason. To get from point A to Point B. He made a lot of the trails that are up in the Sonora, Long Barn area as will as some in Colorado and Idaho. Back then there wasn’t trails or laws against making trails.. He and My Uncles and Grand parents would make trails . They made those trails to get in to area’s that they couldn’t hike to. But they built jeep’s to do it all. That is what true four wheelin was about. He laughes at some of the stuff I do. But he respects it. Because he knows that I can’t go out and build trails like he did. All I am trying to say is respect each other’s choice of wheelin. They all came from the same start.
 
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Has anyone still got the book this picture came out of? The reason I'm asking is cause I think it's the same one my truck is in. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifTheres a article on the Smokey Mtn. Trek in it and a pic of my truck crossing the water on trail #5 is in there. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gifAlmost all bodywork on mine has been done in Tellico and I think it's still in pretty good shape for where it's been.As for the mud issue,I always considered mud a fairly good scratch resistant coating myself.It's all about what you think is fun. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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right Dan. and the 3rd post of this thread I agreed by saying:

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what ever cooks your turkey, man.



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I just don't see what is so hard to grasp about that... /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
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This is what I've been driving the last couple days. It's your classic example of an ugly truck; Ugly, but useful.

It's my brother's '73 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 that he's had for over 10 years, and you can tell it's been used. I have it for a little while to do some work on it for him. It looked half decent at one time, but years of use and abuse have added alot of "character" to it.

Maybe it's the 4" lift with springs sagging so badly that it looks like it's stock heighth again, or the bondo and rust spots showing through the cat yellow paint...or the dent in the hood and fender from the tree that kept the truck from rolling over completely when he slid off the road this winter; it all ads character. And to top it off, theres the broken out rear window and cracked windshield.

I got alot of looks last year driving the big Crew cab around. I get just about as many looks driving this truck around...only they are very different expressions on peoples faces. It may be the exhaust leak that gets their initial attention, but the "character" of the truck keeps them looking. /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif
 
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i have been building my trucks so i can drive them
500 miles to hit the trails, and then when i get done i
can drive it home . as far as looks go, i like looking
at trucks that are decked out with chrome everything , but
find it funny when they act like they would take it anywhere
i would go. cause you know they wont.

the only pretty things i like seeing playing in the mud
is two hotties wrestling /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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I've had some very pretty/show trucks in the past. I still wheeled the heck out of them too so they didn't stay a show truck for long. I don't see anything wrong with have a very functional truck that will turn heads at the local cruising spot as well.
 
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Well, a bone stock ugly POS WILL go farther than a 14" lifted superduty/Ifs chevy on 44's anyday of the week, casue the guy with the $200 POS aint afraid of the go pedal /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif.
 
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haha i understand what u guys r talking about..there is this big F-250 lifted 14 inches with 37" tires...looks big and all but drives it and treats it like a girl.. me and another blazer and this Ford went wheeling through this river and he got stuck...he has 37" tires and me and the other blazer have 33's and we made it fine..i ended up pullin him out! it was so funny, wish i had pics..anyways, i hate when people lift a truck like 3 feet and never let it touch dirt. really dumb huh! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Well, a bone stock ugly POS WILL go farther than a 14" lifted superduty/Ifs chevy on 44's anyday of the week, casue the guy with the $200 POS aint afraid of the go pedal /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif.

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my trucks ugly. and i like her that way. when she is totally dialed in and built to the pont that im satisfied, i might try to make her pretty. but probably not...
 
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As far as it goes, I like reading this thread, it is like watching The Real World on MTV or the Osbournes. Very entertaining, wait let me get my popcorn. First of all I think Zakk is open minded and those posts are more jokingly than serious. I don't want to put words in his mouth though. The best trails out there have all of the above. Take Moab Rim in the early spring. 3-4 foot ledges all the way up; once on top, 4 foot deep pools of water on slickrock and the sand hill on the way down is insane and a hell of a lot of fun. Or Kane Creek Canyon, something like 60 creek crossings if I remember right. If that creek is high enough it can be impassible in some places. There are waterfall obstacles which are tall and fairly insane especially when wet. A well rounded trail makes it a fun trail. After driving over VW sized bolders it is nice to put the skinny pedal on the right to the floor and throw mud 30 feet in the air to relieve the stress that the rocks can bring. Show trucks have their place. Just like that corvette you always wanted just not as fast. They catch the eye and hell they are tall, For the cruising community out here I think you know that the girls don't care if your truck is capable, they want it to look good. As for desert guys I really envy anyone that can drive over whoops at 40 or jump their rig on a normal basis and not have it break. I like to baja my rockcrawler when I get the chance although that isn't what it is made for. I want to relate a story. I had a guy in a brand new Chevy making fun of my Jimmy. His was lifted way up high and he thought that he was the s hi t. He was making fun of how mine was bedlined and so forth. I said you make fun of me as long as you want but I know what you built your truck for and I built mine for something different. He insisted they were the same and that he (wheeled) his. After some small talk and bickering I took him to my local testing ground and built up his confidence with the easy stuff then I took him into an area I like to call Lower Helldo Provo, I know it is a funny name but whatever. It is a 100 yard long canal full of boulders. I drove through and no problem, Lockers and flex do the trick in there. About halfway through after banging diffs and whatever else he got to the first hard part where it got really flexy, probably like a 4 foot boulder, it wouldn't climb it for anything after pounding the hell out of a beatiful rig and denting and bending a pretty chrome bumper I helped him back out of the canal. He saw that we all build our rigs different and I envied him for even trying Lower Helldo Provo after seeing it but I think he gained much deserved respect for what I am trying to do.

Moral of the story "Do your thang and have fun with it"

Dave Cowley
 
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i hate when people lift a truck like 3 feet and never let it touch dirt. really dumb huh!

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Your buddy only driving his truck on the street in my opinion is a good thing, some people who do it for image shouldn't be on the trail, not generally speaking but when people hear "4 wheeling" they think of bashing trucks off road and going any where, it is this viewpoint that hurts the 4 wheel community and how it is viewed. I like my truck alot and although I want it to look good I want to drive the piss out of it as well. That was my reasoning for the 14 bt ff rear as well as my current mods with body armer and rock sliders. I just wish more people were educated about this sport and what the majority of its people are all about.

I like to compare people like your friend with 14 inches of lift and 37 inch tires, to the people with rice rockets that go 180 mph or what ever on the street,

they only hurt the racing/4 wheeling image for those that do it properally. /forums/images/graemlins/angryfire.gif

people who like to race should stay on the track as well as people who like to wheel should stay on the trails
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this is just my viev point and aggrivations, not ment to start probs /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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I'm a firm believer that functionality dictates beauty. This is a concept that is mostly lost in the US today. People buy cars purely on how "cute" it is. 90% of the lifted trucks I see around town are on big blocks with all sorts of brushguards and "trim" accessories that either serve no real purpose or will never ever even get used. When I see a truck where someone took the time and effort to carefully construct a very capable off-roader or prerunner (or whatever the purpose), then I'm impressed. Any gimp with a charge card can take his truck to a lift shop and accessorize the heck out of it by ordering junk chrome parts out of a catalog. I'm not saying it's wrong, to each his own, but I'm not impressed by flash and I have zero interest in showing off for the kind of people that are impressed by flash. If I had put all the money I've spent on axles, suspension, drivetrain, engine, etc. into my paint job, wheels, interior, I'd probably have a really sweet looking truck. Pre-pubescent neighborhood kids would "oooo and ahhh" over it, but like you said in your original post, I don't think I'd wheel it. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

I like all forms of auto related competition. Kudos to anyone involved no matter what their sport of choice is. Everyone gets their thrills in different ways. The only series I really can't get into is this new "import" market. It's not even about imports anymore, it's about small underbuilt cars. Pontiac is dropping the Firebird and offering a "high performance" version of the Sunfire. Give me a break! If you want a performace car, then buy a performance car. Throwing a turbo on a little VW, Honda, Ford Focus, or whatever does not a performance car make. But again, to each his own.
 
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There's a guy here who bought a 78-9 SWB silverado 2yrs ago.Had 6in HD lift already on it with 35 gumbos,V6,465,and 3.08s in10Bs {both ends}.first time he went wheeling with us the frame broke clear in half on the drivers side just in front of rear spring.We spent the rest of day getting it off the trail and back to a friends shop to patch it so he could go to work next day.Saw him about amonth ago,truck looks good,new paint,interior,alum. wheels,42TSLs,motorized steps.Really looked good in Wally world lot so went over to chat.Up close it will make offroader puke.Still got 10Bs{with lockrites}same lift with 4in blocks front and rear,still 3.08s.V6,and the frame is still same patch job from 2 yrs ago,but,it looks good from a distance.He couldn't understand why I wasn't impressed with his improvements /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gifand irritated that I didn't want to take him wheeling now.All of this was done at local speed shop and cost out the wazoo too.Some people with more money than brains I guess. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
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too bad the shop couldn't be like hotrod shops are when they won't build it unless its built right.
 
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All this ons wants is the money.They don't even waranty work on 4x4s. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gifThey talk a good line though /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif.
 
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great responces on this topic... i only asked casue i visit alot of various 4x4 sites and check out some of the pictures of various rides and some just get you thinking as wellabout their actual usefulness. like some of the show trucks with 8-10 inch lift33-35 inch tires. looks fine but still lacking axle clearance to drive over a curb safely...
 
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