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Propane or diesel???

Propane or diesel?

  • Go diesel, better mileage, more involved swap.

    Votes: 10 43.5%
  • Propane!!!!!!!!!!

    Votes: 7 30.4%
  • Stick with my junk a$$ Edelbrock carb

    Votes: 2 8.7%
  • Get NEKKID, sit on a rocket and go balls to the wall!

    Votes: 4 17.4%

  • Total voters
    23
yeah i live in an apartment, space is a premium, so ill probly be buying a trailer to build the biodiesel processer on.

and i finally decided to build an HHO generator today to experiment with. ive got a small two stroke engine that i salvaged from the side of the road, didnt have a carb to begin with, so im thinking about seeing if i can get it running with HHO ;)

just for fun.

if the two stroke does not have a separate oiling system it won't work. small two stoke engines rely on oil mixed with the gasoline to lubricate the engine. you'll need a small four stroke
 
if the two stroke does not have a separate oiling system it won't work. small two stoke engines rely on oil mixed with the gasoline to lubricate the engine. you'll need a small four stroke

you are correct sir, but i have no love for this little two stroke. it was junk when i got it, and its been sitting in my closet for months now, maybe over a year. so ill probly just grease the hell out of the moving parts, bolt it back together, and see if i can make it run. just a proof of concept type deal. hell, i suppose i could go nuts and rig in an oil nozzle to spray oil onto the rotating assembly with a drain hole tapped into the bottom. run through some sort of pump.... but like i said, if this thing goes boom, no harm, no foul. and i dont really feel like going out and buying a used lawnmower yet. if i get the HHO generator up and running with good gas production, and i get the two stroke running, ill probly step up to a four stroke. and then throw a smog pump on it as a supercharger, and see where things go from there :)
 
yeah i live in an apartment, space is a premium, so ill probly be buying a trailer to build the biodiesel processer on.

and i finally decided to build an HHO generator today to experiment with. ive got a small two stroke engine that i salvaged from the side of the road, didnt have a carb to begin with, so im thinking about seeing if i can get it running with HHO ;)

just for fun.

If you make it happen, I'm very interested to see the results... :wink1:
 
That technology has been around since the 60s and with the thousands of tests that have been done to date both in lab, and privately, none have been successful in utilizing hho as a pure unassisted *efficient* fuel. The concept of electrolysis to convert water to hydrogen+oxygen is very unrealistic as far as energy input vs output is concerned. The energy it takes to convert the water to hydrogen through electrolysis is way beyond the energy btu units available in hydrogen gas produced by this method. You want more power generated, add a few generators, which takes more fuel, which requires more power, and its snowballing into a headache. Now hydrogen gas already in its pure state, is a great clean fuel, but there is no infrastructure. But being used through the mentioned process of conversion through electrolysis is a fairytale. BUT if somebody were to find another process by means of converting the h2o to HHO more efficiently, like for instance if frequency were used to lower the energy input required for electrolysis to happen, then that person would be the new Bill Gates of the world, and be rich beyond our dreams.

Now using one of those hho convertors to *boost* fuel economy is a different aspect, and yes those have been proven to add a few mpg, and even in some tests, help give a boost in mileage of around 30%, but those were little commuter cars like geo's. I might try this one out in the future, I have been rolling it around in my head for a while.

Remington
 
That technology has been around since the 60s and with the thousands of tests that have been done to date both in lab, and privately, none have been successful in utilizing hho as a pure unassisted *efficient* fuel. The concept of electrolysis to convert water to hydrogen+oxygen is very unrealistic as far as energy input vs output is concerned. The energy it takes to convert the water to hydrogen through electrolysis is way beyond the energy btu units available in hydrogen gas produced by this method. You want more power generated, add a few generators, which takes more fuel, which requires more power, and its snowballing into a headache. Now hydrogen gas already in its pure state, is a great clean fuel, but there is no infrastructure. But being used through the mentioned process of conversion through electrolysis is a fairytale. BUT if somebody were to find another process by means of converting the h2o to HHO more efficiently, like for instance if frequency were used to lower the energy input required for electrolysis to happen, then that person would be the new Bill Gates of the world, and be rich beyond our dreams.

Now using one of those hho convertors to *boost* fuel economy is a different aspect, and yes those have been proven to add a few mpg, and even in some tests, help give a boost in mileage of around 30%, but those were little commuter cars like geo's. I might try this one out in the future, I have been rolling it around in my head for a while.

Remington


The frequency thing... This guy supposedly made it work, then couldn't or wouldn't prove it to investors, and died unexpectedly (of course, he was actually assassinated by "Big Oil"/The Gov't)... :rolleyes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer

I looked into it, and haven't found an example of someone making it work yet, although I'm not saying it's in any way impossible.
 
Things are pretty much trending towards equal price for equal energy. It has all been stated in other words by the other replies. This is actually what should exist in a balanced economic view.

Fuel, all fuel is sold by the kilowatt or BTU or energy value. If you think any one fuel is cheaper, it has less energy.

When the subsidies go away it all gets exspesive.
 

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