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Question on my dana 60 front 35-spline stubs

buckmtn

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I have the yukon 35-spline stubs and the warn premium hubs to put in my dana 60. My question is regarding the problems some have encountered with the hubs locking/unlocking themselves. When I assemble my front end should I go ahead and put the thicker carrier bearing races in to space the hub out, or taking some off the end of the stub. I just want to put it together so that it works properly the first time, or should I just assemble as it is and see if I have any problems with the stub rubbing the inside of the hub. Thanks
 
Tell me more about what your thinking relating to the thicker carrier bearing races to space the hub out. I don't follow you yet on that. Do you mean thicker wheel hub races?
 
From what I have learned from searching old posts is that the dana 60 carrier bearing races are the same diameter as the stock wheel bearing races they are just a little thicker. If you put them in place of the stock races it will space out the hub 1/8" to give you a little clearance between the end of the stub shaft and the inside of the lockouts.
 
35 Spline Stub Shaft on Dana 60

Thanks for the info. I wish I new that when I put my 35 spline stub shafts in. The Dana 35 spline (stock Dana 70 part) does stick out beyond the end of the wheel hub & I had to do several things to make it work without contacting the locking hub. Does anyone out there know for shure if the carrier bearing races actually work or can I get some help to find the old posts and threads on this topic. I have not had much luck searching.:doah:
 
i didnt have any issues with mine when i did the 35spline 70 outers with warn premo hubs on my last 60
 
I chamfered the end of the D70 35 spline stub shafts and they still hit the Warn premium hub center tubular part of the dial. I put on the cheaper Warn locking hub cap portion with the plastic dial. I had those from the previous OEM stubs configuration. It has a larger diameter center tubular part of the dial. This still was not enough clearance. The stub rubbed the dial and locked my hub again yesterday. Will be looking into the swapping in some carrier bearing races for the inner wheel bearing races.

Anybody try the new hi-dollar Dynatrac locking hubs for the Chevy D60 application?
 
35 spline stub shaft to locking hub interferance

I found my old D60 inner wheel bearing races and my old carrier bearing races. Here are the facts that I have learned. I'll pass them along and hope it helps someones else avoid the pitfall.

1. I have Warn Premium locking hubs, P/N 62672. This is the correct part no. for Dana 70 35 spline stubs on a Dana 60 in a GM.

2. Both the original 30 spline stubs and the 35 spline stubs stick out beyond the spindle.The 30 spline stubs smaller diameter fits inside the tube shapped inner part of the locking hub dial.The 35 spline stubs larger diameter hits the tube shapped inner part of the locking hub dial.

3. The inner wheel bearing race and the dif carrier bearing race have the same O.D. of 3.813 inches.The wheel bearing race is .623 thick (inner edge to outer face). Part no. is Timken 382A.The carrier bearing race is .798 thick. Part no. is Timken 382S or Federal Mogul 382S.

4. The carrier bearing race is .175 inches thicker than the wheel bearing race. Installing the carrier bearing race in the wheel hub will move the wheel hub outward about .175 inches. This extra space along with grinding a chamfer on the ends of the stubs should provide sufficient clearance for the tube shapped inner part of the locking hub dial.

5. Will the wheel grease seal still fit into the hub with the thicker races installed? Please reply if you have successfully done this.

5. Keep the snap ring groove on the end of the stub shaft. I made a spacer/sleeve to go between the snap ring and the inner splined part of the locking hub. This holds the V-seal up against the back face of the spindle. These hubs have nothing included to locate the snap ring to the hub components. Nothing to hold the V-seal against the back of the spindle. Warn blew this one! I'm "testing" the spacer sleeve now. I'll provide more info after adequate testing. If you have 35 spline stubs and Warn hubs, grab your D60 axle shaft at the u-joint. Move it toward the dif and then toward the wheel. If it moves freely until the axle shaft yoke hits the end of the axle tube, then you have nothing holding the V-seal against the back of the spindle. If you have Warn hubs & 35 stubs and say you have no problems, you probably have a gap between the V-seal and the back spindle and don't even know it.

Method 2 I would like to discuss is to cut the stub shorter and cut an new snap ring groove at the location where the inner splinned locking hub part would keep the snap ring from moving inward, therefore keeping the V-seal in a proper position. Seems like that would work fine if the spacers sleeves don't work out. Have you guys been cutting and regrooving stubs to run Warn premium hubs?

This web site is great and you guys that are sharing info are the best!:bow:
 
Thanks for the info. I still haven't assembled mine yet, maybe I just need to get some different lockouts that will work without any mods. I have seen others talk about using these races but never heard anyone say they worked one way or another.
 
Anyone ever figure this out? I am getting ready to purchase a D60 and would like to get it built before I install it.
 
and i'm contemplating putting the 35 spline stubs in my d60 also, does swapping the carrier race for the wheel bearing race work, also is there any lockouts that work w/o any modifications? and what is this about the v-seal, i have yet to tear into a d60, but know its a whole different animal from any 1/2 or 3/4 ton d44 or 10 bolts.
 
I have Yukon 35 spline outers on my D60 with Warn premium hubs and i did not have any issues. I did compare my stock stub axles to the Yukons and they were exactly the same length. :confused:
 
The pirate writeup says this is only a problem when using a Ford d60 with GM outers. The Chevy\Dodge spindles are already the right length.
 
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