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ramey winch motor replacement

^^appreciate all your help...
well i did this much but will wait for my bro in law for the next part...

how does this look? also there seems to be some things not smooth... guess i can carefully sand them off???

RamseyMotorClean.jpg
 
how does this look? also there seems to be some things not smooth... guess i can carefully sand them off???

Would not worry about it. As long as it does not hit in the fields, its fine. Magnetism does not care if its pretty.

Double check the gaps in the commutator. It looks like it cleaned up good, but the gaps look full.
If its just crud, you can clean it with a toothbrush. If its stuck harder than that, use the thin hacksaw blade. Just drag it down the slots towards the bearing and brush off the debris.

Double check the bearings too. If they have any rough spots when you spin them, now is a good time to replace them.
They should have numbers that any good bearing place can cross reference, or most starter shops probably have them in stock.

Just make sure they have the same kind of seals.
There are three basic types.

You have open bearings, where you can see the balls, sorta like a nudist wedding.
Shielded bearings, where it has covers, but no actual seals.
And sealed bearings where they have actual rubber seals like a wheel hub.

Yours are probably sealed. If so, don't let some shop sell you shielded and say they are just as good.
 
well my bro in law took the motor case... he is going to check with a guy at work... he is good with this stuff... if he says the casing is shot.. new motor ill get...
 
69 or 75 $ here

http://www.dbelectrical.com/c-3381-winch-motors.aspx


sorry i posted this before i niticed the above post

yes i have been contacting them.. a 4.5hp motor is $70... they said this one?
http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-3373-...bi-directional-hd-mbj4407-lrw0001-ramsey.aspx

so i questioned it as mine is 5.5hp.. all i know is if i get stuck i want out.... so i dont want to put cheap parts in if i dont have too....

so then they recommended this one...
http://www.dbelectrical.com/p-7025-...double-ball-bearing-6-horsepower-lrw0017.aspx
$140

so all those prices dont include $18 shipping.... so $158 to feel at ease or $88 to hope it works.... yes save money where you can but some places you cant... summit racing wants $192 shipped... so do i save $34 and not buy the ramsey oem part.... we will see what my bro in law says about the motor housing he is taking to work...
 
my bro in law said yes it is salvageable.. however i have one delema now... that snapped bolt.. any one know where to get these? they are kinda special.... somehow wires lay into a V on the end of the bolt....
 
Best bet is going to be a starter shop. Most all starters use the same basic type bolt. Solid copper with a square head with a slot cut in it.

Never actually replaced one myself. I've got access to a great starter shop, so I don't have to.

Just from looking, I would say that the wires lay in the groove, maybe are crimped slightly, and then soldered.
You might find one in a good electrical house, or something you can use. Some very good hardware stores might have one, probably not Lowes or HD.
If you strike out completely, let me know by tomorrow afternoon, and I will swing by the starter shop and see if I can't pick you one up on the way home.

There may be more than one size. Make a guess or measure the diameter if you can. Its got to fit the insulator fairly closely.

If you don't know for sure by tomorrow afternoon, thats OK, but I won't be going by the shop for sure again before Monday.

There is an old winch motor out in the shop that was so bad off that even I could not salvage it economically.
Its laying there somewhere in pieces. If I spot it in the morning on the way to work, I'll see what it would take to get a post out of it.
 
Best bet is going to be a starter shop. Most all starters use the same basic type bolt. Solid copper with a square head with a slot cut in it.

Never actually replaced one myself. I've got access to a great starter shop, so I don't have to.

Just from looking, I would say that the wires lay in the groove, maybe are crimped slightly, and then soldered.
You might find one in a good electrical house, or something you can use. Some very good hardware stores might have one, probably not Lowes or HD.
If you strike out completely, let me know by tomorrow afternoon, and I will swing by the starter shop and see if I can't pick you one up on the way home.

There may be more than one size. Make a guess or measure the diameter if you can. Its got to fit the insulator fairly closely.

If you don't know for sure by tomorrow afternoon, thats OK, but I won't be going by the shop for sure again before Monday.

There is an old winch motor out in the shop that was so bad off that even I could not salvage it economically.
Its laying there somewhere in pieces. If I spot it in the morning on the way to work, I'll see what it would take to get a post out of it.

thanks man.. ill let you know what i find out.. and yeah let me know about that post... :waytogo:
 
you ever take a look for it???



Best bet is going to be a starter shop. Most all starters use the same basic type bolt. Solid copper with a square head with a slot cut in it.

Never actually replaced one myself. I've got access to a great starter shop, so I don't have to.

Just from looking, I would say that the wires lay in the groove, maybe are crimped slightly, and then soldered.
You might find one in a good electrical house, or something you can use. Some very good hardware stores might have one, probably not Lowes or HD.
If you strike out completely, let me know by tomorrow afternoon, and I will swing by the starter shop and see if I can't pick you one up on the way home.

There may be more than one size. Make a guess or measure the diameter if you can. Its got to fit the insulator fairly closely.

If you don't know for sure by tomorrow afternoon, thats OK, but I won't be going by the shop for sure again before Monday.

There is an old winch motor out in the shop that was so bad off that even I could not salvage it economically.
Its laying there somewhere in pieces. If I spot it in the morning on the way to work, I'll see what it would take to get a post out of it.
 
my father just called me and said he will take a look.. he said it should be the same as a starter relay... so he has a ton and will tear one apart.... so more to come next week...
 
ok so my dad took the old one out.. he tried a solenoid bolt but no go.. so he used just a regular bolt.. not sure how he attached the wires.. he said they are under the bolt head..

so cool part is that i put it in the truck.... at first it wasnt working.... but after a mess of clicks.. im wondering if something else was jammed too cuz now


SHE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!
 
you ever take a look for it???

Darn it, I must be getting old. I looked for that winch housing, did not find it, but somehow forgot to post that.

Sorry.

Can you tell which post was replaced? If its the.......Well, got a semantics problem here. Not sure what to call what.
Normally I call the winch pulling in, forward, but if you are standing in front, you might call that backwards since its going away from you.....

Anyway, is the bolt that was replaced the one hooked to the battery when its in pull-you-out mode?

That should be when those bolts see the most load. So you would want it to be the copper one.
If the new bolt is the one used when paying out the cable, then it will not see the current load the other one will.

Or, is it the one off by its self? That is the armature bolt, and while it sees some load, its not going to see as much as the field bolts.

Depending oh how he attached the wires, you might have problems with that bolt.
It can see some really high current loads. Watch for smoke when you are pulling hard.

If you are still concerned, I will check around and see if I can't find a copper stud like those somewhere.
And, I should have some Phoscopper laying around to solder it with.
 
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