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rear window goes up with gas pedal

landon67

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never heard of anything like this but my rear tailgate window motor will turn on and put the window up everytime i accelerate faster then idling off a stop. i currently have it fixed by taking the fuse out for the tailgate switch but that also takes out the power door locks. i have checked all the wires and everything i can think of but im out of ideas. Has anyone ever heard of this happening or have any ideas to fix it.

1990 blazer if that means anything
 
got to be a grounding problem.

Maybe one of the wires is rubbing on the throttle cable?

Thats a weird one for sure
 
I love these types. This is the kind of thing that companies call me in for at great expense to themselves.
Unfortunately, this one sounds simple. Not much of a challenge.

First thing we have to do is isolate the mechanism that causes it.

Replace the fuse, turn the key on and press the accelerator. Does it go up?
Crank the engine, leave it in park or neutral and press the accelerator. Does it go up?

I'm betting that it does not.

If not, then you can forget about anything to do with the accelerator its self. The problem is caused by acceleration. More specifically, inertia.

As you accelerate forward, inertia causes everything to want to move back.
This movement is what triggers the window.

If I remember right, the window is normally triggered by a key switch in the back. Is there one on the dash also?

I would turn on the key, so the window has power, and then either push from inside, or pull from outside, the back door to simulate acceleration.

In this test, I am thinking you have a shorted switch and the power contact only makes contact when the door moves.

If not, then probably there is something in the switch mechanism itself that is making contact when you move forward.
Something could be loose in the door and swinging up against the switch contacts.

The switch contact inside the switch will wear out and break sometimes, and it might be moving around inside the switch and causing this.

Bear in mind, I have not seen one of these systems, so some of these ideas may not be possible.
I could do a lot better in person.

But if you can isolate the basic mechanism with the first tests, it will go a long way to tracking it down.
 
i have tried moving the tailgate with the hinges locked to see if the window moves and it doesnt the only way the problem happens is if i accelerat somewhat quick. i moved the tailgate in every way possible even jumping on the back of the truck and moving the tailgate and it still will only go up if i drive it.
 
it hasnt always happened. it started about a year ago but i took the fuse out but now that i fixed the door locks i would like to be able to use them haha
 
Tailgate needs to be closed to complete the circuit. There is a switch in the drivers side that will not let the window move if the gate is open. This switch is a common failure point for t-gate windows that will NOT move, unlike yours. So, that switch appears to be working in your case. You could bypass it and then open the gate to try and reproduce your problem, but untill you bypass that switch you will get no results.

I'm betting a loose contact in one of the switches or possibly something loose inside the window motor in the t-gate.
 
think about what you did to the truck ( if anything, espcially electrical) right before it started happening...
 
i understand the tailgate needs to be closed but if you open the latches on the sides the tailgate acts like its closed so i moved it around with the latches closed to simulate acceleration. the only thing i can think of is the back switch being bad how hard are they to change? only thing that confuses me is all the switches still work great
 
This sounds like a prank call to an automotive talk radio show.

I am almost sure that the rear motor is always grounded, which makes this even stranger. Both the down and up connections are hot. That means something is shorting 12V to the "up" wire - possibly when the engine moves in the mounts.

Another troubleshooting tactic is to disconnect the 3rd wire going to the tailgate. This is the power to the keyswitch and would determine if the problem is inside the tailgate or up front somewhere.

I would also suspect the dash switch. Try removing it. Then look at the throttle linkage to see if anything could pull on the wires to that switch.
 
I don't think you can simulate acceleration by jumping on or hiting or pounding on the tailgate. If the a motor or wire is moving/shorting under acceleration, the weight of something moving (backward) while you accelerate forward is what is causing it. Just wiggling/jarring the tailgate won't do it. Picture a bowling ball in the back of your truck, think of the force that ball would push against your tailgate while you're accelerating quickly. Now picture that same bowling ball resting against your tailgate while you pound/kick/hit/wiggle your tailgate. Won't come close to causing the same force between the ball and tailgate.

I'd take off the inner tailgate panel and wiggle things around while the truck is running. Push on wires/motor etc...just watch your finers!
 
Just adding some food for thought:

On my truck the window is slow as hell going up. If I accelerate it and get the alt cranking, it'll start really moving.

Perhaps the switch is stuck and there's a constant load on the motor. It may be tired to the point where it only moves once you apply gas and get full amperage out the alt.

Especially in the cold, when mine is down, and I try and roll it up at a stop, it DRAGS ASS. Once I get the engine speed up, it's all good.
 
Tailgate needs to be closed to complete the circuit.

I'm betting a loose contact in one of the switches or possibly something loose inside the window motor in the t-gate.

My tailgate window will go up with the tailgate open. I agree it sounds like a loose wire that makes contact w/ acceleration.
 
Just adding some food for thought:

On my truck the window is slow as hell going up. If I accelerate it and get the alt cranking, it'll start really moving.

Perhaps the switch is stuck and there's a constant load on the motor. It may be tired to the point where it only moves once you apply gas and get full amperage out the alt.

Especially in the cold, when mine is down, and I try and roll it up at a stop, it DRAGS ASS. Once I get the engine speed up, it's all good.

This is an interesting thought, mine too is very slow (almost stops) without the motor running.
 
Switch in the dash could be bad. The momentary on on the up side is wore out and loose inside the switch. Unplug the leads to it, tape them off and stomp the skinny pedal.
 
ha would be funny if it went down in reverse but only goes up. the dash switch doesnt seem to be the problem but i have no clue at this point like i said the problem goes away when i remove the fuse/breaker that controls the door locks and tailgate switch. ive tried moving wires and taking the access plate off and moving wires the switch etc. but i cant find anything out of the norm. the problem only happens when i hit the pedal and the fuse is in. no broken wires or anything. im just completely out of ideas except for replacing the tailgate switch which still works fine for putting the window up and down
 
This is an interesting thought, mine too is very slow (almost stops) without the motor running.


On a side note, remove interior panel, and lube the **** out of everything. I prefer Jigaloo.

Also, I cleaned my grounds, and added additional grounding from motor to tailgate, and tailgate to body/frame. Ran the additional ground out the hinge hole....whats the worst that happens....the ground wire shorts out? :waytogo:

Makes all the difference in the world. I lube it about every other year....with all my windows.
 
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