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Removed about 500 lbs from my Dually

Russ

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I removed about 500 lbs from my dually this weekend. Took the little TBI 350 out so I could install the TBI 489.

Russ

TBI 350.jpg

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Good thinking on putting a big block in your dually. A small block in a 1 ton pickup makes as much sense to me as putting an elevator in an outhouse.
 
I agree, I never understand the philosophy behind a small block in a crewcab dually pickup. They had to put 4.56 gears in it to make up for the engine, so that killed any fuel savings there may have been. I am definitely looking forward to the torque increase with the 489.

Russ
 
Outta be able to lay 4 black rubber bands. ??removed the hood, radiator but not the core support, take-off the fr wheels to kneal as low as poss?? I'm doing my swap starting 12/26 @ o'dark-thirty.
 
Russ said:
I agree, I never understand the philosophy behind a small block in a crewcab dually pickup. They had to put 4.56 gears in it to make up for the engine, so that killed any fuel savings there may have been. I am definitely looking forward to the torque increase with the 489.

Russ

Yeah, big block Chevy engines are the kings of torque as far as gas engines are concerned. If you'd want any more torque, you'd have to go diesel power.
 
roadnotca said:
Outta be able to lay 4 black rubber bands. ??removed the hood, radiator but not the core support, take-off the fr wheels to kneal as low as poss?? I'm doing my swap starting 12/26 @ o'dark-thirty.

I had planned to remove the whole front clip, but decided to try leaving it in place first and so far everything has gone real easy with the removal. I still may wind up pulling more of the front end if the install gets difficult. I hope to put the big block in over the next couple of days.

Russ
 
not as bad as....

Ten_Bucks said:
Good thinking on putting a big block in your dually. A small block in a 1 ton pickup makes as much sense to me as putting an elevator in an outhouse.

I agree,a crew cabs smallest engine option should be a 454!..:D


I worked on several late 80's crew cabs owned by Amtrak..they used them as maintenence crew trucks for railroad track maintenence and repair..they were 4x4's,and had the steel train wheels that allowed them to be driven on the tracks!..hydraulically operated..the guys said they could go 65- 75 mph on the tracks--with no hands!:eek1: ...they were SO heavy,the 10,000 lb lift strained to pick them up when we'd do oil and tire changes..and I almost died laughing when I opened the hood on one,expecting to see a thumping 454 BBC to haul all that weight..,or maybe a 6.2 diesel..----

To my suprise,there was a rather boney looking 292 straight six in it!...:eek1: ---I asked the guy how it drove..he said "its a good thing it has that "granny low" manual tranny..it NEEDS it!..if I have 6 guys and tools in it,I'm lucky if it will hit 75 MPH,on level ground!..I get passed by VW busses going uphill!..but they never die!..

They all had well over 150,000 miles,and my friend said he had done all the maintenence on them since new..only major failure on one was a blown head gasket!..but what a joke,a truck like that needs all the power it can get!..:rolleyes: :crazy: ..
 
diesel4me said:
I agree,a crew cabs smallest engine option should be a 454!..:D


I worked on several late 80's crew cabs owned by Amtrak..they used them as maintenence crew trucks for railroad track maintenence and repair..they were 4x4's,and had the steel train wheels that allowed them to be driven on the tracks!..hydraulically operated..the guys said they could go 65- 75 mph on the tracks--with no hands!:eek1: ...they were SO heavy,the 10,000 lb lift strained to pick them up when we'd do oil and tire changes..and I almost died laughing when I opened the hood on one,expecting to see a thumping 454 BBC to haul all that weight..,or maybe a 6.2 diesel..----

To my suprise,there was a rather boney looking 292 straight six in it!...:eek1: ---I asked the guy how it drove..he said "its a good thing it has that "granny low" manual tranny..it NEEDS it!..if I have 6 guys and tools in it,I'm lucky if it will hit 75 MPH,on level ground!..I get passed by VW busses going uphill!..but they never die!..

They all had well over 150,000 miles,and my friend said he had done all the maintenence on them since new..only major failure on one was a blown head gasket!..but what a joke,a truck like that needs all the power it can get!..:rolleyes: :crazy: ..

Yeah, that idea is just wrong. That thing should have AT LEAST a 454 in it. If not a 454, a 6.2 diesel would be the next best choice.
 
Russ said:
I had planned to remove the whole front clip, but decided to try leaving it in place first and so far everything has gone real easy with the removal. I still may wind up pulling more of the front end if the install gets difficult.
I was wondering cause friends say "take off the clip" but '85 factory man only says hood, rad, and all the pulleys; but looks like you pulled SBC with pulleys on. I suspect BBC install might req. pulleys off. I'll return with results on my SBC swap @ 12/28. Aint nothing like a fresh motor, especially a HiPo. Thanks Russ.:D
 
diesel4me said:
To my suprise,there was a rather boney looking 292 straight six in it!
Yea, that old Blue Flame can be built w a low & fat torque curve, I'd bet the IL6+SM465 (no doubler) make a neat ultralight truggy. Hmmmm, I smell wood burning.:hack: :weld: :grind: :xmas:
 
Update on Progress

Enlisted the help of my kids today and put the big block in. Everything went extremely easy. I am down to the point of hooking up wires and hoses and then hoping it starts.

Russ

engine install1.jpg

Engine Install2.jpg

Installed.jpg
 
oooolala looks nice!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i also am confused by the engine choices by chevy. a year or two back i bought a 78 1 ton cab and chassis with a 292 straight six. whats with that? four wheel drive and 4.56 gears didnt help this beast along at all. it was a line truck with 1000lbs of hydraulic arms in the back to lift spools os cable. just odd to me.
 
Russ that motor is just plain secksy!!

How much different are the hose connections between the old and new a/c compressors? Also, what throttle body are you running? Is it a modified OE 454 unit or...?

What kind of hp/tq numbers are you hoping for from the motor?

How's the rest of the truck going?
 
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