it would just rupture.... don't worry about it...
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Running 220 for air compressor
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Usually like a grenade. Sometimes they just split and the concussion blows out the windows but does not do much damage.
Other times there is shrapnel. Just depends on how they fail.
And where they are. I saw a picture of what was left of a car after a SCUBA tank let go in the trunk. Lots of shrapnel from the car parts.
And I saw the CO2 tank that blew at the plant that time.
But, those are extreme cases since you are talking pressure in the thousands instead of hundreds.
Even so, not a good idea to be standing next to one if it blows.
That is why keeping the water out is so important. The inside of the tank is not painted or galvanized and is made of high carbon steel......
Other times there is shrapnel. Just depends on how they fail.
And where they are. I saw a picture of what was left of a car after a SCUBA tank let go in the trunk. Lots of shrapnel from the car parts.
And I saw the CO2 tank that blew at the plant that time.
But, those are extreme cases since you are talking pressure in the thousands instead of hundreds.
Even so, not a good idea to be standing next to one if it blows.
That is why keeping the water out is so important. The inside of the tank is not painted or galvanized and is made of high carbon steel......
I still gotta get a regulator or something because thaere is just a big 1/2 inch hole on the right side of it...debating whether or not to use leader hose and then to a regulator/air filter attched to the wall, or attach the regulator straight to the 1/2 inch opening?
I did not win that dessicant dryer on eBay....
I did not win that dessicant dryer on eBay....
I think I would go with hose to the wall.
If you start doing dryers, they are going to mount on the wall.
And regulators like dry air better than wet. So, you can mount the regulator after the dryers when you get some.
If you start doing dryers, they are going to mount on the wall.
And regulators like dry air better than wet. So, you can mount the regulator after the dryers when you get some.
I've never run system regulators at home, I regulate everything at the tools when necessary..
1/4 turns for many tools...
or for spray guns, variables..
1/4 turns for many tools...
or for spray guns, variables..
So...out of the compressor and straight into a water seperator, then a dryer?
OK, this is my blew up air tank story. I think I posted it before, but I couldn't find it.
We took over a plant in Quincy Fl. Everything was run by air. Soaker, Filler, Packer, even the CarboCooler had air on it.
They had two 10hp compressors that ran continuously. And they still had to stop and wait.
We swapped one of the 10s for the big 25 we were using at the local plant for shop air.
It was big enough, but started getting hot. It did not have unloaders, so it had to start and stop.
The motor would start to get hot after a while.
Then we found a compressor in a just closed dry cleaners.
It was a monster.
40hp motor, big 4 cylinder water cooled compressor mounted on a steel frame on the floor.
4 inch steel line going from the compressor to a 7 foot tall vertical tank. Plus it used unloaders, so it would just freewheel until it go called for.
Hauled it up, set it up, worked like a dream. Most of the time it was just loafing. After production, they would shut it down, and turn off the small valve on the copper line that supplied water to the heads. It just ran out in the yard behind the brick building it was in.
We just reassembled it as it was. For some unknown reason, some idiot had put a cutoff valve in the pressure switch line.
Late one evening, they shut it down and accidentally turned off that valve instead of the water valve in the dark.
Next day, they fired it up.
With that valve turned off, it could not stop pumping. The safety valve blew, but that big unit could pump faster than the valve could release air.
I don't know what would have happened otherwise, but that was when we discovered another secret about that unit.
That big nice painted tank was not an air tank.
It was a water tank.
Instead of round ends, the bottom it was sitting on was actually concave, and welded around the edges.
I don't know at what pressure it happened, but eventually the bottom flexed and went convex.
That snapped the weld all the way around, and it went straight up leaving the bottom where it was with a dent in the concrete where it slammed down.
Snapped the 4 inch steel line off and went through the roof.
The concussion of the air release blew all the glass out of the office windows across the back ramp, and leaned a forklift over against a truck.
Nobody was hurt. When they got the tank back off the roof where it had come down, the sides were sucked in from the outside air pressure when the outgoing air left a vacuum.
We had a new certificated tank built, and got it all back running.
The funniest part was the air vents. There were 5 large copper air vents on the roof of this building.
Big hat looking structures that sat on copper pipes and kept the rain out but let the heat go up.
It blew one of them off, leaving the vent pipe sticking up.
No one could find it.
No chance of getting another one, they must have been 30 years old.
Everybody turned out and walked the neighborhood looking for this thing.
We contacted the local metals dealer in case someone turned it in.
No luck.
About 2 weeks later, they came to me to see what we could use to replace it. This was the first I knew it was missing, since I had been at the other plant since right after the explosion.
The head foreman and I went upstairs to the second floor of the other building so I could see what was needed.
Also, I had the reputation of the go-to guy when something was lost, and he was hoping I might find it.
I was looking down at the roof of the other building, seeing where it had been fixed, and seeing the open pipe where the cap used to be.
Suddenly something struck me like an electric shock. It was all I could do to keep a straight face.
I told the foreman that I was sure I could come up with something to replace it, but why not just put the old one back on?
If I had suddenly spit in his face, he could not have been more shocked. I thought he was going to faint.
They had been scouring the countryside for two weeks looking for it and apparently I had found it in less than a minute just by looking out a window.
He actually whispered, you know where it is????
I said, sure, its right there and motioned out the window. He ran over and stared out for a long time. Finally he asked where?
I said, I'll give you a clue. How many vents are there on that roof?
He said 5.
As I started back down the stairs to go do something else, I asked, how many vent caps do you see?
I was almost halfway down before he started cursing. That darn cap had flown up in the air, and come back down on the roof upright on its base perfectly in line with the other four. It was even spaced right.
Looked just like it was supposed to be there. I just happened to count them and realized there were the correct number.
Didn't hurt my rep any............
We took over a plant in Quincy Fl. Everything was run by air. Soaker, Filler, Packer, even the CarboCooler had air on it.
They had two 10hp compressors that ran continuously. And they still had to stop and wait.
We swapped one of the 10s for the big 25 we were using at the local plant for shop air.
It was big enough, but started getting hot. It did not have unloaders, so it had to start and stop.
The motor would start to get hot after a while.
Then we found a compressor in a just closed dry cleaners.
It was a monster.
40hp motor, big 4 cylinder water cooled compressor mounted on a steel frame on the floor.
4 inch steel line going from the compressor to a 7 foot tall vertical tank. Plus it used unloaders, so it would just freewheel until it go called for.
Hauled it up, set it up, worked like a dream. Most of the time it was just loafing. After production, they would shut it down, and turn off the small valve on the copper line that supplied water to the heads. It just ran out in the yard behind the brick building it was in.
We just reassembled it as it was. For some unknown reason, some idiot had put a cutoff valve in the pressure switch line.
Late one evening, they shut it down and accidentally turned off that valve instead of the water valve in the dark.
Next day, they fired it up.
With that valve turned off, it could not stop pumping. The safety valve blew, but that big unit could pump faster than the valve could release air.
I don't know what would have happened otherwise, but that was when we discovered another secret about that unit.
That big nice painted tank was not an air tank.
It was a water tank.
Instead of round ends, the bottom it was sitting on was actually concave, and welded around the edges.
I don't know at what pressure it happened, but eventually the bottom flexed and went convex.
That snapped the weld all the way around, and it went straight up leaving the bottom where it was with a dent in the concrete where it slammed down.
Snapped the 4 inch steel line off and went through the roof.
The concussion of the air release blew all the glass out of the office windows across the back ramp, and leaned a forklift over against a truck.
Nobody was hurt. When they got the tank back off the roof where it had come down, the sides were sucked in from the outside air pressure when the outgoing air left a vacuum.
We had a new certificated tank built, and got it all back running.
The funniest part was the air vents. There were 5 large copper air vents on the roof of this building.
Big hat looking structures that sat on copper pipes and kept the rain out but let the heat go up.
It blew one of them off, leaving the vent pipe sticking up.
No one could find it.
No chance of getting another one, they must have been 30 years old.
Everybody turned out and walked the neighborhood looking for this thing.
We contacted the local metals dealer in case someone turned it in.
No luck.
About 2 weeks later, they came to me to see what we could use to replace it. This was the first I knew it was missing, since I had been at the other plant since right after the explosion.
The head foreman and I went upstairs to the second floor of the other building so I could see what was needed.
Also, I had the reputation of the go-to guy when something was lost, and he was hoping I might find it.
I was looking down at the roof of the other building, seeing where it had been fixed, and seeing the open pipe where the cap used to be.
Suddenly something struck me like an electric shock. It was all I could do to keep a straight face.
I told the foreman that I was sure I could come up with something to replace it, but why not just put the old one back on?
If I had suddenly spit in his face, he could not have been more shocked. I thought he was going to faint.
They had been scouring the countryside for two weeks looking for it and apparently I had found it in less than a minute just by looking out a window.
He actually whispered, you know where it is????
I said, sure, its right there and motioned out the window. He ran over and stared out for a long time. Finally he asked where?
I said, I'll give you a clue. How many vents are there on that roof?
He said 5.
As I started back down the stairs to go do something else, I asked, how many vent caps do you see?
I was almost halfway down before he started cursing. That darn cap had flown up in the air, and come back down on the roof upright on its base perfectly in line with the other four. It was even spaced right.
Looked just like it was supposed to be there. I just happened to count them and realized there were the correct number.
Didn't hurt my rep any............
Sounds good.
I know where Quincy Florida is...it's right near Havana just north of Tallahassee...I've been there...ate at a place called Sonny's Bar-B-Que
I fired up the compressor today...man that thing is quiet...the inline sander is 3 times as loud as it is...
I opened the water drain valave and this yellow sludge that looks like baby poop plopped out...then some dirty water...
I guess I am not understandin how a regulator works...when I dial it to 90 and put the inline sander it goes to zero real quick...if I dial it up to 120 it drops down to 90psi while I am pulling the trigger...when I stop it goes back up.
Will the initial 120 blow the inline sander up?
I opened the water drain valave and this yellow sludge that looks like baby poop plopped out...then some dirty water...
I guess I am not understandin how a regulator works...when I dial it to 90 and put the inline sander it goes to zero real quick...if I dial it up to 120 it drops down to 90psi while I am pulling the trigger...when I stop it goes back up.
Will the initial 120 blow the inline sander up?
it'll take as much air as you can throw at it....
