Anybody ever built there truck to be a sand toy if so how did it work out ?
To heavy ?
To heavy ?
CK5
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Sand Toy
- Thread starter kgblazerfive
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original balzer
1/2 ton status
I have seen a few at little sahara (jerico sand mtn.) here in utah. Theres only 2 that actualy performed well. One was a 72 blazer but pretty much everything was tube exept the firewall/dash and the front clip. It was 4wd but had big and littles. I assume he had gears to match the differnt tire sizes. oh and a blown big block. The other was hardly a K5 at all with a tube chassis and glass body and some sort of pissed powerplant.
I helped build a 1982 jeep postal DJ 5. We used regular CJ parts to convert it to left side drive. Boxed the frame from the rear leaf mounts forward then added another 18" to the front. However we left it 2wd and mounted the front beam axle as far forward as we could. we then cut the firwall and about 15" of the trans tunnel and moved it back.
I gave him a 14bff we threw under the rear with a 4 link kit originaly made for a s10 pickup and cherokee(small one) coils. He then built a 327 bored 60 over with 12:1 pistons and a crazy lunati cam and edel. heads he used keith black for all the bottom end. It was fast but i never got to ride the dunes. last i herd he got hit by sand rail at glamis and was going to put an all glass body on it.
The sand is fun but its better to build for it, rather than a multi-purpose build.
Have fun
Balzer
I helped build a 1982 jeep postal DJ 5. We used regular CJ parts to convert it to left side drive. Boxed the frame from the rear leaf mounts forward then added another 18" to the front. However we left it 2wd and mounted the front beam axle as far forward as we could. we then cut the firwall and about 15" of the trans tunnel and moved it back.
I gave him a 14bff we threw under the rear with a 4 link kit originaly made for a s10 pickup and cherokee(small one) coils. He then built a 327 bored 60 over with 12:1 pistons and a crazy lunati cam and edel. heads he used keith black for all the bottom end. It was fast but i never got to ride the dunes. last i herd he got hit by sand rail at glamis and was going to put an all glass body on it.
The sand is fun but its better to build for it, rather than a multi-purpose build.
Have fun
Balzer
I was acually thinking about doing something with my Malibu super stock. Full cage, fuel cell, hydro pedals, set the motor back ,cut out lots, longer travel suspension
, then I thiought I could put one of my many 4x4 parts in it too
, then I thiought I could put one of my many 4x4 parts in it too
I take my sub to glamis and it goes anywhere even up olds with 5 people and a bone stack small block not the quickest but effective, roll it around in 2 when everyopne is stuck in the sand, next year more motor, gear and tire.
Work in progress. I still haven’t taken it out to the sand in two years because I keep breaking down on the street. But, I’m slowly removing the weak links.
resurrected_jimmy
1/2 ton status
kgblazerfive said:
search username= RyanB + pismo
and for more fun throw dana 60
in to that search
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
My rig is set up for sand play. Flotation is the key out there as Im sure you know. When I first set it up I had brand new boggers. The traction was so friggin great that I couldnt beleive it........ Too bad the direction I was going was STRAIGHT DOWN.
I was pissed to say the least. It dug and dug and dug. I coulda ended up in china. So I went home bought 33" paddles and havent looked back. I run bout 5-7 psi depending on sand condition (dry/wet) in the paddles and they work great. Then I realized the paddles were spinning on the rim so I screwed them to the rim and got even faster. For my front tires I run 33" baja claw radials. Good steering tires for sand IMO. I run bout 8 lbs in them. Racing up comp hill 8-10 trucks wide at 10 pm is friggn ausome! When Im done I take the paddles off and drive home. IMO 700r4 is best tranny for sand because it gets you on top of the sand the quickest. First one to get flotation usually wins. Not always the case though. If my rig didnt see the street I woulda left my 700r4 in it. But scince Ive snapped or twisted three output shafts on the street I took it out.
I was pissed to say the least. It dug and dug and dug. I coulda ended up in china. So I went home bought 33" paddles and havent looked back. I run bout 5-7 psi depending on sand condition (dry/wet) in the paddles and they work great. Then I realized the paddles were spinning on the rim so I screwed them to the rim and got even faster. For my front tires I run 33" baja claw radials. Good steering tires for sand IMO. I run bout 8 lbs in them. Racing up comp hill 8-10 trucks wide at 10 pm is friggn ausome! When Im done I take the paddles off and drive home. IMO 700r4 is best tranny for sand because it gets you on top of the sand the quickest. First one to get flotation usually wins. Not always the case though. If my rig didnt see the street I woulda left my 700r4 in it. But scince Ive snapped or twisted three output shafts on the street I took it out.
You mean this 60resurrected_jimmy said:search username= RyanB + pismo
and for more fun throw dana 60
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
Chaddy said:You mean this 60
Yeah that shoulda been welded prior to going out.
haha I think you are just too new around here to know about Ryan's rig...sure some sort of truss system or welding the tubes could have helped but its an insane rig and you get to the point where its not worth the hassle...jumping in a fullsize just causes damage 
Just make sure you have the camera with ya'!
Oh btw I'll give ya' a ring on Monday to chat about those tires...
The Chevyin crew knows a thing or two about sand If you guys need something you should get their attention and point them towards this thread...I just spent a weekend with them in Pismo and they taught me more about the sand in a weekend than I've learned in my entire life of searching the net and talking to people around where I live...
Just make sure you have the camera with ya'! Oh btw I'll give ya' a ring on Monday to chat about those tires...
The Chevyin crew knows a thing or two about sand
If you guys need something you should get their attention and point them towards this thread...I just spent a weekend with them in Pismo and they taught me more about the sand in a weekend than I've learned in my entire life of searching the net and talking to people around where I live...
chevyin
1/2 ton status
Having a sand vehicle is kind of like having a salt water power boat. A big hole in the water that you pour money into. Do everything you can to build it strong, and then figure you will spend three hours working on it for every hour you wheel it. Here at Pismo we see two kinds of wheelers. Guys that can do their own work and guys who have unlimited cash. Unfortunately we don't fit into the second catagory, so a lot of our spare time is spent on the repair phase of the sport.
what is it about sand that makes it so hard on a vehicle?chevyin said:
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
The Driver
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
Avery4jc said:haha I think you are just too new around here to know about Ryan's rig...sure some sort of truss system or welding the tubes could have helped but its an insane rig and you get to the point where its not worth the hassle...jumping in a fullsize just causes damage
Oh btw I'll give ya' a ring on Monday to chat about those tires...
The Chevyin crew knows a thing or two about sand
Yeah I am new to this site and dont know bout Ryan. Hopefully I'll see him in action at Pismo soon. I probablly already have and just don't realize it. I been going there for bout 8 years. I agree welding and support can only do so much if you go crazy in the sand or anywhere for that matter. I do know that sand is pretty forgiving on vehicles. Stock 4X4 trucks out on the dunes do great up untill the point where you start jumping them. From that point you gotta start puttin' in some serious upgrades starting with the drivetrain. If you are catching some hellasious air
then you can only do so much to help protect your rig from the inevitable. $$$ spent on the right parts will greatly decrease the odds of breakdowns, but ultimatley its up to the guy behind the wheel to wether you drive out or are towed out. That goes for in the sand, over the rocks, or on street. I'm no expert by any means but I've seen some crazy sh!t out there....thats why Pismo is Pismo. You can bring a sofa mounted to a couple of axles and have at it lol.
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resurrected_jimmy
1/2 ton status
Chaddy said:You mean this 60
yeah thats the one
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
Nice!!!
colbystephens said:
besides the corrosiveness (sp?) atmosphere I think its just the speed...a rig that does trails or rock crawls is generally going pretty slow almost all the time...out in the dunes its pretty easy to get going 30+ mph w/o even noticing it...So when you hit bumps and ruts and stuff it just makes it worse...
doonjumper
1/2 ton status
Speed does cause break downs, however the guy behind the wheel not reading the sand still causes them. If a person hit bumps and ruts at 30+ miles an hour he/she is not reading the sand correctly. It takes some time to learn how to read the sand. Know when to bigfoot and when not to. Remember caution will always win over valor.
Yeah when I was following Chris and Garry around (they were in a blazer, I was in my truck) I nailed some good size ruts when I definately shouldn't have been on the gas...
DesertDueler2
1/2 ton status
Heavy right foot does alot of damage, just like in the rocks, except you are always using your heavy foot in the sand not just when trying to go over a rock. Every time I go to Glamis I end up breaking my rail. Last two times has been the frame from jumping But it is soo much fun, I just fix or replace the frame and go again.
Dan
not just when trying to go over a rock. Every time I go to Glamis I end up breaking my rail. Last two times has been the frame from jumping But it is soo much fun, I just fix or replace the frame and go again.Dan
