4trolls
1/2 ton status
I tried the ratchet strap ,no go! any other Ideas?
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seating a bead on 16.5 rims?
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readymix
3/4 ton status
Tighter ratchet strap.
Remove the valve stem core and blast it with a shot of air.
Remove the valve stem core and blast it with a shot of air.
broncoman6524
1/2 ton status
starter fluid...plus bic lighter. works reeeaaal goood. haha
just be careful...
if you dont know how it works. lean the tire/wheel against something (wall door etc) spray fluid into tire...flick hte lighter near it, or you can light a match and throw it...either way the fluid ignites creating a rapid expansion which will typically seat the bead...just make sure to begin filling it up quickly.
just be careful...
if you dont know how it works. lean the tire/wheel against something (wall door etc) spray fluid into tire...flick hte lighter near it, or you can light a match and throw it...either way the fluid ignites creating a rapid expansion which will typically seat the bead...just make sure to begin filling it up quickly.
readymix
3/4 ton status
Update your life insurance first please.
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Randy92782
1 ton status
we always use startin fluid and matches too. works the best for our tires on the dumps and stuff
chevy wrangler
1/2 ton status
ive seen a video on that once, pretty cool stuff
johnnychimpo
1/2 ton status
starter fluid + long match = seated bead. Use as little as possible! Support the wheel & let the tire hang. It may take a few times to get the hang of it, As soon as it seats put the air to it.4trolls said:
Bow-Tie-Boy
Registered Member
I use the starting fluid method too. As long as you use as much common sense as you can while using a flammible liquid and a lit match, you'll be fine. I would suggest standing directly over it and watching the pretty flames though. I have always layed them flat on the concrete, but..... Don't let the kiddies see you do it, as it may give them a not so good idea for your next cook out.
pvfjr
1/2 ton status
Well after mounting more tires than I can remember, of the 16" and 16.5" variety, I've learned a couple things.
For 16.5's, I prefer carb cleaner to starting fluid. It burns a little slower, so it seems to hold the pressure inside a little longer before sucking the tire back in off the bead. Gives you more of a chance to put some air in it before it comes undone.
Also, stand the tire up on end. I've always had better success since I started doing that. Also, I like the pull the rim towards the back, so that the front bead is already seated. If you look at your rim, usually the big groove that the bead slips into when you're mounting the tire, normally it's toward the front of the rim. This allows for a big gap of air, and you can lose half your explosion. If you pull the rim toward the back, and seat the front bead to begin with, you'll see less of a gap between the rim and the tire. This will allow it to blow up onto the bead easier.
And remember, get air on it fast! Don't let any grass grow after you light the fluid.
For 16.5's, I prefer carb cleaner to starting fluid. It burns a little slower, so it seems to hold the pressure inside a little longer before sucking the tire back in off the bead. Gives you more of a chance to put some air in it before it comes undone.
Also, stand the tire up on end. I've always had better success since I started doing that. Also, I like the pull the rim towards the back, so that the front bead is already seated. If you look at your rim, usually the big groove that the bead slips into when you're mounting the tire, normally it's toward the front of the rim. This allows for a big gap of air, and you can lose half your explosion. If you pull the rim toward the back, and seat the front bead to begin with, you'll see less of a gap between the rim and the tire. This will allow it to blow up onto the bead easier.
And remember, get air on it fast! Don't let any grass grow after you light the fluid.
pvfjr
1/2 ton status
Oh yeah, and for lighting it, I always spray a little trail of fluid down the tire and along the ground for a foot or two. Keeps the hair on my hands.
Starter fluid is the easiest way I think.
But be sure that you wait a while before trying again if you fail the first time bc the air inside the tire is already warm after the first attempt and will not expand as much as cold air
But be sure that you wait a while before trying again if you fail the first time bc the air inside the tire is already warm after the first attempt and will not expand as much as cold air
Please just take your tires to a commercial tire shop. they will mount them with a cheetah. its basically an air tank with a big nozzle on it. they will blast in air and you will not burn or kill yourself.
http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-47-105.html
do NOT buy this. if you do not know what you are doing you can seriously hurt yourself or others. I worked in a commercial tire shop for years and was properly trained to use one. I have seen lots of guys get hurt using one improperly.
And whatever you do, do NOT try and make one. air pressure is no joke, it can kill you. I worked with a guy who is now mentally handicapped from having a tire blow apart on him when he was seating the beads.
http://www.alltiresupply.com/p-47-105.html
do NOT buy this. if you do not know what you are doing you can seriously hurt yourself or others. I worked in a commercial tire shop for years and was properly trained to use one. I have seen lots of guys get hurt using one improperly.
And whatever you do, do NOT try and make one. air pressure is no joke, it can kill you. I worked with a guy who is now mentally handicapped from having a tire blow apart on him when he was seating the beads.
yeah I don't know why guys mess around with seating beads with fire (unless you're stranded on the trail or something with absolutely no spare that will work) because shops charge next to nothing to do it...
When I got my 35's to use as my street tires so I could retire my 38.5 Baja Claws from their dd use I took the 35's to a shop and they only charged $5 a tire to mount them...
When I got my 35's to use as my street tires so I could retire my 38.5 Baja Claws from their dd use I took the 35's to a shop and they only charged $5 a tire to mount them...
Avery4jc said:
See even Avery agrees and he has done some dumb things when it comes to personal safety.
If you walked into the shop I worked in with the tires already mounted and all you needed was the beads seated we wouldn't even charge you. its easy with the right equipment, its dangerous without.
pvfjr
1/2 ton status
Well in my town there's only one shop. They charge $45 to mount/dismount a set of tires. I brought a spare into them once (I knew I guy there, so it was gonna be free) and their machine wouldn't seat the bead on my spare. The tire had previously been mounted on a really narrow rim, and was kinda stuck in that sucked in position if you know what I mean. The sidewalls were sucked in so far, that the beads wouldn't come close to the wider rim. So what did the guys in the tire shop use? FIRE!Avery4jc said:
They keep a few cans around for such occasions.It really isn't dangerous once you figure out how to do it right. But, if you're a little slow, or accident prone, it probably is best to leave it up to the tire shops. We all have our reasons for doing it. Mine? I've never lived next door to the tire shop, and I hate wasting time driving around, burning up gas, waiting in line for my turn, and paying someone else to do something I can do at home. But that's just me, I'm an impatient cheapskate.
pvfjr said:So what did the guys in the tire shop use? FIRE!
the owner/operator of your local tire shop is also cheap like you. If you own a tire shop and do not own a cheetah or a similar bead seating tool then your either cheap or dumb. the whole point of charging someone to do something is because you can do it and they either can't or don't want to.
chevy wrangler
1/2 ton status
at my high school, we have a tire machine, it seats beads and can unmount/mount a tire. i know how to use it, so i can change a tire for free 
4trolls
1/2 ton status
I wont be using fire, if I was going to do something dangerous ,I would use c02 but I dont realy want to do that either.
I tried 2 ratchet straps very tight, its a no go but, if it was a narrower rim it would work. It just doesnt reach.
I tried 2 ratchet straps very tight, its a no go but, if it was a narrower rim it would work. It just doesnt reach.
Bow-Tie-Boy
Registered Member
gmc4cw said:
I too have mounted more tires than you can shake a bag of dead kittens at, and there have been 2 or 3 occasions when the cheetah would not do it. There are some people that run tires on wheels that are not the "ideal size" for each other. In these select cases we resorted to fire. I'm not condoning it or saying that it is safe, but sometimes..... Whatever you decide to do, just use common sense.
Jishory
1/2 ton status
easy:
step 1: insert run flat
step 2: bolt wheel together
step 3: inflate tire
step 1: insert run flat
step 2: bolt wheel together
step 3: inflate tire
