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Shock mounting- through tub?

jekquistk5

jekquistk5

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Looking for ideas to get my 12" ADS' s mounted, all while still being able to fit the stock back seat in. I'm thinking off the back of the axle, and leaned back. Just trying to figure this out without hacking the tub to pieces. After talking to Eric, he assures me I will have to. I can always play with valving to get them right despite leaning the wrong way.
 
jekquistk5 said:
Looking for ideas to get my 12" ADS' s mounted, all while still being able to fit the stock back seat in. I'm thinking off the back of the axle, and leaned back. Just trying to figure this out without hacking the tub to pieces. After talking to Eric, he assures me I will have to. I can always play with valving to get them right despite leaning the wrong way.
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Something like this...?


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Side Profile showing the lower shock mount... behind axle.

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-G
 
Greg72 said:
So ungrateful....

I removed all the sheetmetal to make it easier for all of you to see the mounting scheme and other details.



-G
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I was going to tag you in the first post, but you have done extensive modifications that will not line up with what I plan. Not to mention that first gen is way different than my second gen. I also am not balding yet. :haha:
 
jekquistk5 said:
I was going to tag you in the first post, but you have done extensive modifications that will not line up with what I plan. Not to mention that first gen is way different than my second gen. I also am not balding yet. :haha:
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True.

Wheeltubs are relocated 3" back
Framerails are "C-notched" on the horizontal axis
Seat is pushed forward maybe 1" vs. stock

That said, you may still be able to apply some of the design elements to your own project..... and still keep your hair.


-G
 
Greg72 said:
True.

Wheeltubs are relocated 3" back
Framerails are "C-notched" on the horizontal axis
Seat is pushed forward maybe 1" vs. stock

That said, you may still be able to apply some of the design elements to your own project..... and still keep your hair.


-G
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Thank you Greg, I appreciate it .
 
Or if you want to get real fancy you could design a cantilever shock. This way you could mount the shock along the frame rail. You could also play around with the length of the 'arms' - if you make one half as long as the other then the shock only has to travel half as much, but the valving would have to be twice as stiff. I don't know why one of the fabricators on here hasn't come out with one yet (hint hint). :whistle:

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I have no problem cutting the tub, just wanted a few ideas before I commit to one. I'll let @sreidmx figure it out first. Goal is end of june, I don't have that kind of time.
 
I like Wade's setup, get the shocks as outboard as you can, then box them into the tub. Install a slightly narrower seat, and go from there. I think you would kill a lot of the utility of the truck by running them up behind the stock seat.

-Rob
 
RivMan said:
I like Wade's setup, get the shocks as outboard as you can, then box them into the tub. Install a slightly narrower seat, and go from there. I think you would kill a lot of the utility of the truck by running them up behind the stock seat.

-Rob
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I have a truck for truck things. I do not want to reduce the seat size, I shouldn't be carrying too much stuff back there. Cooler and recovery tools should be about it.
 
I'm no engineer or racer but I have to ask the dumb question....

Do you guys ever worry about the shock breaking loose that close to a seat? I know it's added weight but I think I'd want some sort of captured pocket around the top mount so there's zero opportunity for it to get loose (worst fantasy case scenario).

Fuel cells bother me like this too. No barrier between it an passenger seats.
 
nvrenuf said:
I'm no engineer or racer but I have to ask the dumb question....

Do you guys ever worry about the shock breaking loose that close to a seat? I know it's added weight but I think I'd want some sort of captured pocket around the top mount so there's zero opportunity for it to get loose (worst fantasy case scenario).

Fuel cells bother me like this too. No barrier between it an passenger seats.
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That is why mine has the shocks parallel the the 2 verticals tubes going to the frame. It also does not have the additional capture brackets done in that picture.

Nobody rides back there anymore. So the seats are on a shelf in my shed.
 
Interested in the math that shows why a 12" travel shock has to come through the bed, since I have 12" travel Bilsteins on the stock mounts. I understand why coil-overs would need to come through the tub, so it that the real purpose here: to make the coil-over mounts now? I've seen 14" shocks inboarded under the bed. It is about having just a couple inches of lift?
 
Jess basically has coilovers with no coil on them.

Much longer compressed than a conventional shock
 
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