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shop air system / upgrade yet again . . .

here we go again :doah:

found these 2 at a local shop Friday . I know the owner and him/my self worked a good deal .

if the insides were to rusty and full of junk I pay $0.00 . . . . and if o.k. and can use them I pay $200.00 for the pair .

there both 80 gal and 200psi rated max tanks .

also there good inside so I guess I need to pay him now.

going to swap the small pump unit setup over to the black 80 gal tank . at the same time this will let me bump the pressure switch up to the full 175 psi the pump can do . since the 60 gal tank its on now is only a 145psi tank .

then I will be swapping out the horizontal 60 gal storage/ballist tank for the vertical 80 gal blue tank . get me more floor space over the lay down style.

and if you didn't notice yes the new black 80 is a twin to my original . . . . :haha::haha:

also plan on selling the 60 gal horizontal to reclaim some cash back . .

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I guess you know you are scaring the heck out of me right now. Unknown used air tanks? At the very minimum, I would have either thick plywood, or steel between me and anything I cared about and those tanks the first time I ran them up to pressure.
They do seem to be name brands, and if you inspected the inside for rust, then I would be OK with using them myself, provided they passed the initial pressure test behind shielding.

However, if it was me, I would call around to the local welding supply shops to see if you can find out who does hydrostatic pressure testing in your area.
Not sure what it would cost, if they were willing to do it without certification, it would be cheaper. Whatever the cost, its probably cheaper than a new shop building or funeral.
I don't have a shop like you folks do, my main line is electronics. I do lots of mechanic type work, but its occasional. I have enough friends with well equipped shops that I can use, I don't have to maintain as much personal equipment. And most of my power tools are electric.

I have an upright Harbor Freight special, the smallest one that has an oil sump. The tank is thin walled Chinese sheet metal. Its enough for me since mostly I use it for tires and blowing off dirt and filings.
Even though I keep it drained, it sits in a corner with a thick wall between it and me. When its been sitting for a while without being turned on, I fire it off remotely and go outside the building until it cuts off.
Its several years old, and a couple of times over the years the water coming out the drain was rusty.
It failed to start the other day, and I wheeled it out to work on it. Pretty sure its the capacitor. Its going to have to sit until my incision gets better.
But in typing this, I am considering getting another one. I have helped clean up the aftermath of an air tank explosion one time, and have no desire to do so at home.

Friend of mine said that if I ever decided to get a different compressor, he wanted my old one. He is a good friend, and I have given him lots of stuff like that over the years.
I told him under no circumstances would he get that unit. He could have the compressor, but if I got a new one, I was going to destroy the tank.
I have no problem putting myself at risk, I figure the odds, and take precautions. Plus I have never had a woman that could put up with me long enough for kids.
He has a young boy.............
No, he is not getting that tank.
 
all good info fordum

these units come from a shop I know . and there a high volume shop for turn around . they eat a comp every few years if that . in the end they just buy new for faster install and back to work .

so these were recent take outs as the pumps just died a long running death .

i have checked the inside of the tanks with plugs out and led pen light inside to see real good . little chunky on bottoms but no major divits or holes .

will full psi test them with hose out in my driveway before install in shop .
 
today got 2 more hose reals from flexzilla / legacy . just the cheeper 50ft units . 1 in the paint bay and 1 on the other end of the shop .

the paint bay also got a 1/2" in/out regulator with a line gauge and regulated gauge to watch the system if any problems .

moved the smaller air compressor down in its final home corner 2 weeks ago . needs air line hooked up and electric plug run to it .

then extra 80gal storage tank needs plumbed in line and main air hose real run of it .

its finally coming together come hell or high water .
 
@sweetk30 maybe you can help me. I mentioned awhile back I picked up a Speedaire 5Z185B 60 gal vertical with a 5 hp motor. Needed a plug so I got that figgured out. It starts and runs good. My question is there are no fittings. It came from a shop so only had a 3/4 NPT? reduced to 3/8" ish threaded fitting on one side. It has a pressure gauge and relieve valve. What do I need to get for this? A manifold? Regulator? Both?

Not mine pictured, but an example. In the pic on the right side mine has a large plug. On the left side it has the 3/4-3/8 fittings.

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nice old school pumper there buddy .

if your just going to run a single hose off it then i would just do a ball valve / regulator & filter seperator / your fav brand / style of coupler and plug the hose in .

if me i would do atleast 1/2" for these items so if later you plan to do a small line setup in the garage you can feed what you need with the 1/2" already .

that reducer thats 3/4" should be a easy change out .

and for air fittings anymore just go somthing like flexzilla highflow . there so much better than std old reduced fittings . and i love my flexzilla hoses .
 
sweetk30 said:
nice old school pumper there buddy .

if your just going to run a single hose off it then i would just do a ball valve / regulator & filter seperator / your fav brand / style of coupler and plug the hose in .

if me i would do atleast 1/2" for these items so if later you plan to do a small line setup in the garage you can feed what you need with the 1/2" already .

that reducer thats 3/4" should be a easy change out .

and for air fittings anymore just go somthing like flexzilla highflow . there so much better than std old reduced fittings . and i love my flexzilla hoses .
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Yeah I'm just looking to set up a single line out right now. This garage isn't big enough to warrant a hard line system. Here is the spot where I removed the fitting.

So just get a 1/2" fitting out with a regulator and filter with a coupler for that spot? I figured it was probably as easy as that.

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i also prefer to remove the drain fitting at the bottom of the tank .

then install a street L fitting . then a long length of hard line . and a ball valve . last a nipple with a length of hose so you can drain the tank in a bucket so no messy floor area .
 
MTBLAZER89 said:
Yeah I'm just looking to set up a single line out right now. This garage isn't big enough to warrant a hard line system. Here is the spot where I removed the fitting.

So just get a 1/2" fitting out with a regulator and filter with a coupler for that spot? I figured it was probably as easy as that.

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I would put a 90 towards the top, then get the valve at a nice height for you to work with. Then run you your regulator, filter, and dryer/separator, and quick connect.

I like to build a bracket for support if need be and tie it back to the pump plate.
 
sweetk30 said:
i also prefer to remove the drain fitting at the bottom of the tank .

then install a street L fitting . then a long length of hard line . and a ball valve . last a nipple with a length of hose so you can drain the tank in a bucket so no messy floor area .
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It already has that.
 
beags86 said:
I would put a 90 towards the top, then get the valve at a nice height for you to work with. Then run you your regulator, filter, and dryer/separator, and quick connect.

I like to build a bracket for support if need be and tie it back to the pump plate.
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I like this idea vs just having some fittings and stuff sticking out the side of the tank unsupported.

What do I use for plumbing? Is the black pipe and fittings from Home Depot ok or no?
 
Ok sweet! And last question I think. I have a Craftsman 33 gal as well. Is adding a second tank as easy as plumbing it inline?
 
your 60 gal unit should be just fine .

if anythink keep the 33 gal for a roll around tire air tank maybe .

and always watch for psi ratings on tanks . there NOT all the same psi spec max . thats why i swapped one of mine out from a 60 @ 140psi to a 80 @ 200 psi so i could turn the pump switch up and use the pump to its full potential . as i had it turned down for the smaller tank .
 
MTBLAZER89 said:
Ok sweet! And last question I think. I have a Craftsman 33 gal as well. Is adding a second tank as easy as plumbing it inline?
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Yeah, it should be fine. You probably won't need it unless your wrenching hard or using a DA, or a one inch impact or something that eats alot of air
 
Awesome! Thanks for the help guys! I will post up when I shop for the parts I need.

For the second tank thing I was thinking for a paint gun. My 33 gal is 150 and the Speedaire 60 gal is 125 so should be good there.
 
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