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Shop build. HEAT!

Coming in late, if I missed something, sorry! That's a lot of pages. :)

I too prefer the 4K range, but with ~3, 4, and 5K available, choose what you like! Just me, since I like to save money when I can, ebay has a lot of them in the $4-5 range if you buy 20-25 at a time, and I'm sure that is where they all come from (china) anyway. Especially if you are good with the 5K+ range. The 5K's are cheaper than 4K's. I prefer the clear covers, I figure that way none of the light is getting "wasted" passing through an opaque cover. Light dispersion from 11ft up is very good with no diffuser. I'd argue every bit as good as the few fluorescents that still have working ballasts in my fixtures.

And while more outlets are better, if you intend to line your walls to the max as I have with spare doors, tailgates, camping gear, workbench, shelf units for parts, etc., you'll probably end up blocking a few of them. For a welder have you considered making an extension cord? 110V is a no brainer to put them every six feet or so, but more than one 220V would seem overkill unless you plan to leave something plugged in all the time. Never compared the cost on the flexible cable (and you have 250ft of other, so may not make sense to even consider) since I already had it, but with one outlet where the bay doors open, I can theoretically move the welder (or plasma, whatever) 25' out into the driveway, or nearly reach the furthest distance inside the shop.
 
I have a 25 ft extension cord for the welder. But shop is 40 ft wide and 30 deep. I want to be able to reach anything and once I start putting stuff in there a straight shot with the cord won't be easy to do. The other reason for the multiple welder outlets is where I have had to weld in the past. Putting the welder right up next to a truck. And being on top of a truck eats up feet pretty quick!

Also a flexible extension cord is more money than 6-2 Romex about 2 bucks a foot vs less than 1 dollar a foot for romex

All my normal outlets are 48.25" off the ground. I'm sure I'll end up blocking some but shelves will go up high for large stuff. I have a gantry crane to lift stuff up. But I also have a shed for storage so shop should be mostly clear.

I really want to have clear walls in this shop. I'm sure that won't always happen but I'm gonna try
 
blazinzuk said:
I really want to have clear walls in this shop. I'm sure that won't always happen but I'm gonna try
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lol. What do you do with all the drill presses and mig, arc, oxy/acetylene, and electric hacksaws you end up with that you can't pass up the good deals on?? :)
 
dyeager535 said:
lol. What do you do with all the drill presses and mig, arc, oxy/acetylene, and electric hacksaws you end up with that you can't pass up the good deals on?? :)
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Lol well yes those. On the long wall there are 4 outlets that are 32" apart . Those go there. I have a drill press a disc sander that need to be mostly stationary. Bench grinder too. Bandsaw when I fix it, chopsaw etc .but the bandsaw and chopsaw will have mobile stands

One of my goals since I am starting blank space is to be able to easily clean without clearing the whole shop. So only things that have to be on the floor will be. And those things will eventually be on casters
 
Master electrician note: If you can, everything tool you put on casters use a Cord drop at the receptacle. All the materials are at Home Depot. it adds the ability to move everything out and away from the wall when cleaning without unplugging everything. Then change the plugs on the machines to 110 twist ends. I did this in more than a few industrial builds but also in my personal shop and I freakin' loved the ability to move the machine out and away from the wall for weird shaped objects that I was working on or just cleaning up. just a thought
 
I don't really understand the need for the twist lock stuff.

Sorry I've never worked in a heavy industrial setting.

Also define cord drop. Sorry I'm not versed in the lingo at all
 
Cord drops are essentially a flat plate cover over the receptacle with a cord ferrule installed into it. It allows you to have a short/long length of extension cord permenantly connected at the recep. Then you can add a cord end or box to the end.

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Vombrown said:
Cord drops are essentially a flat plate cover over the receptacle with a cord ferrule installed into it. It allows you to have a short/long length of extension cord permenantly connected at the recep. Then you can add a cord end or box to the end.

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Gotcha. I might go to that at some point when I get the locations of the stuff that needs plugged in more permanent.

But it's really not much of a bother to unplug and move. Non of anything I have needs to remain plugged in for cnc stuff or anything.

I was actually going the complete opposite direction. I was thinking after I decided totally where stuff was I might cut down the cords to the exact length I needed and add outlets exactly where the machine was.

But in reality I don't think I will know exactly where I want stuff for a couple years
 
Might want to have a game on at some point, so a plug up higher with coaxial and/or hdmi dir a TV might be worth doing.

Also, if you are planning on having a computer out there somewhere, don't forget to run network cable.
 
ashman said:
Might want to have a game on at some point, so a plug up higher with coaxial and/or hdmi dir a TV might be worth doing.

Also, if you are planning on having a computer out there somewhere, don't forget to run network cable.
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ashman said:
Oh, and run the wires for your garage door openers and sensors.
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Good call.

I doubt I'll ever have any kind of satellite TV or cable out there. I'd have to bury the line and you know rocks n stuff.

I kick myself for not doing a cat 5 cable from the house when I did the power but it just didn't happen.

I do need a wireless signal booster though. But in my old garage I never had a desire for a tv, so I think the most I would have is a computer. But I am gonna think about it cause who knows
 
@NorCal69 Mike that reminded me I was gonna do an emergency light. I had forgot that till now. No windows I don't want to have the power go out and no lights.
 
blazinzuk said:
@NorCal69 Mike that reminded me I was gonna do an emergency light. I had forgot that till now. No windows I don't want to have the power go out and no lights.
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Sounds like a solid plan. Just over the next couple of nights when your sitting around just think about all of the stuff that you may want down the road. I go through this on every remodel before we close up the walls and lid. It such a time saver vs. forgetting something and needing to back track. Are you going to have any strip lights directly over your workbench on the underside of some shelving or something like that? I’d probably want lights closer than 11’ above in that area. It would be nice if those were switched too. Just simple stuff that often gets forgotten, not that your going to do it, but under cab, over cab lights, lights in cabs, future exterior lights, outlets in cabs for protected charging stations for your cordless stuff.... blah, blah... etc, etc. :)
 
NorCal69 said:
Sounds like a solid plan. Just over the next couple of nights when your sitting around just think about all of the stuff that you may want down the road. I go through this on every remodel before we close up the walls and lid. It such a time saver vs. forgetting something and needing to back track. Are you going to have any strip lights directly over your workbench on the underside of some shelving or something like that? I’d probably want lights closer than 11’ above in that area. It would be nice if those were switched too. Just simple stuff that often gets forgotten, not that your going to do it, but under cab, over cab lights, lights in cabs, future exterior lights, outlets in cabs for protected charging stations for your cordless stuff.... blah, blah... etc, etc. :)
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Yah I need to do one for a charging station. I will have some specific lighting over the bench area, that will have a separate switch .

The in cabinet lighting I'm not sure how to do. I might just run some wires to a box about that height and call it good. I wish I had a bunch of cabinets to install right now but I don't.

I have sat down out there and pondered some, now if I could just quit pondering and make up my mind!
 
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