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Shop Equipment Question.

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First, a little backstory. I'll try to keep it short, but you guys know me........

Friend has a wrecker service. Used to own a building and about a one acre lot which he shared with a mechanic friend of mine.
Things were crowded, so when a larger place opened up about 5 years ago, from a friend of his, he made the jump.
Sold the old shop to my mechanic friend.
The friend who owns the place he is now, is really tight. They are good friends, go out four wheeling together, get along well.
But the best way to describe the friend, is that he is a used car salesman.

Now the friend wants to sell everything he owns around here and move farther south. Since my wrecker guy has been renting from him for 5 years, has done lots of improvements to the place, and hauled a lot of stuff for the owner, he figured he would get a decent deal on buying the property.

NOPE

He had an appraisal done by a questionable appraiser, who brought in a very overpriced number. And he will not budge off it.
My friend will not pay it.
Meanwhile, our mechanic friend is having problems. Great mechanic, lousy businessman. He has gotten a nice offer to run the shop for a large company, and jumped at it.
My wrecker guy has decided to take over the shop, scrap the equipment in it, which is in bad shape, put in new and open a repair shop.
He will keep renting where he is, while the guy tries to sell it for more than its worth. If it sells, he will just move to the new shop and keep on keeping on.
Meanwhile, he will be able to do the servicing for his wreckers in the new shop.

So far, so good. I've run out of money right now, so I can't help that way, but networking, computer stuff, whatever, I'm there.
However I think he has lost his mind.
When I showed up there Friday, he had a Hunter rep demoing a balancer and tire machine.

I realize that, especially with the new taller rims and narrower sidewalls, imperfections in the sidewalls will show up as a vibration that cannot be balanced out. Also misaligned belts can cause a pull to the side that is not an alignment problem.
And this Hunter Road Force machine will detect all those problems and prove it to the tire companies so that they will warranty the tires,
But, this is a fairly small country town, not Beverly Hills.
I see a few BMWs, some Mercedes, but no top end stuff. Some of the local boys have 20 inch aftermarket rims, but the cars are not worth the wheels.

He is going to sell tires and alignments as well as regular repairs. So he needs good tire equipment, but just the Road Force machine lists for 26K.
It will be the only one within about 40 miles or more, so hopefully other shops will send him business that they cannot find the vibration.
The tire mounting machine is a marvel. Fully automatic, you just lay the tire on, and it does the rest. No metal touches the tire or rim, so you don't have to worry about wheel damage.

Even he says that is probably more than he needs.
Anybody have any idea if the Road Force machine will even break even in a reasonable time? Are there that many defective tires coming out of the manufacturers these days?

Back in 1978, I had an alignment problem with my Torino that no one could find. It just always pulled slightly to the right.
When I replaced the tires, the right front had a broken belt that was plainly visible when unmounted. But other than that, I have never had a set of tires that needed special balancing.

I like the machine, and think it will do its job. I just don't think he needs it now.
Especially since he still has to get a four post lift, an alignment machine, and lots of other stuff.

Comments?
 
A road force balance rocks, it is rare that you ever need to do one. The newer balancers also rock totally worth it if you have a bunch of low pro tires to do. Amazing what they can do by themselves . It will take a lot of tires to make the investment back they do last for a long time though.

If I was opening a shop and I only had one balancer, I would get one. Their are cheaper ones to get, lots of companies make them. The road force is really cool.
 
It works as well if the tire is used and you are trying to get it to balance. We charged like $12 a tire for a road balance. If you are the only one in 40 miles could make your own price.
 
I remember when I opened shop 18 years ago, had tire machine first on my list. Met with a group of shop owners who gave me great advice. "Get a tire machine AFTER you get everything else". Still don't have one. You have to sell a LOT of tires to pay for that. Big box tire stores are getting tires for half what he will pay. If it won't make money for you now, don't buy it
 
Exactly what YoungBlood said. Don't shell out 26k and then hope the machine will bring you business. It won't. You buy equipment as you are growing and as needs arise. The bottom line is, do your current tire balancing invoices net enough pay for the monthly payment?

If not will having the added capability bring you enough? In a small town etc... I doubt it.
 
I have been through the Hunter balancer and aligner training. Both are awesome products. Of the two, I would suggest spending the money on the aligner.

Most discount tire franchise stores have a road force balancer with a warranty for a large number of miles. People like Miata owners who have to get tires balanced with that Hunter machine know that and probably won’t go to a new independent place to pay more.

Alignment however is the gate to a gold mine. Put every single vehicle that comes in the door on the machine. It takes about 2-3 minutes with their new targets. Print out what the car is at and check the steering/suspension for worn or loose parts. Every car on the road will have worn or loose parts. Besides what the car came in for, tell the customer what is off on the alignment and what else was found wrong.

Lots of control arm bushing and ball joint work will result. Good workers can do that kind of work way, way faster than book and it pretty much is easy work. Every one in the shop happy and making money.
 
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