Spy pics of Wally (ORD Truggy)

[Stephen]

What you can't see yet:
new 14-42-17 IROKS
505 Performance 503 cid big block with edelbrock alum heads, alum water pump, old multipoint efi and valvetrain, etc.
Dynatrac ProRock 60 Front (with same guts as before but with Superior shafts and CTM joints)
New Warn 9.5ti
Premier Power Welder (hate to bite the bullet on this one but it's a handy tool to have)

Mini pretty much summed it up about the frame rails. I really wanted to start with a pile of tubing but there are too many things that are already done to this chassis to abandon when we're short on time. The list of projects really is pretty big but nowhere near completely fabricating from scratch. LOTS of stuff will bolt back in, like seats, harness, shifters, glovebox, all the wiring, the brake system, etc. And it's going to work out nicely, the motor is a little higher than I would like but way better than before, the framerails are quite a bit wider than I would like but are firmly attached and very functional, the cage is a little heavier than I would like but is good enough and on and on and on.... It's going to work better than it did and it worked pretty darn good before.
When i look at the existing framerails and the one factory crossmember that's left, I kind of wonder why myself.
Factory K5 skins go back on it, I'll probably use the stock hood skin again, it's relatively straight (enough). I'm looking at mounting factory mirrors, just to solidify the look a little. It's starting to get a little sketchy calling it a K5 but I'll keep doing it just out of habit.

I'm a little nervous about the highway miles, mostly from a law enforcement standpoint. We are paying particular attention to as many details as we can, like lights, mirrors, mini fenders, windshield, etc. After that it comes down to the big stuff that we just can't get away from and really shouldn't have to since we're going to be mostly legal in this state. Hopefully we blend in with the rest of the caravan and stay out of trouble by driving like I have a brain.

Fox's chassis will be nicer than mine, I'm really wishing I has his windshield area design since his will be really easy to put a 'shield in and mine's a major pain in the butt. ps, it's not much right now but the pile of tubes on the K5 chassis behind wally is the new uav chassis....

 

[Stephen]

RE shop:
Funny thing is, the original cagework (that's still there by the way) was built in Feb. '98 in my parents dirt driveway under a tarp. We've come a way since then. It's an insulated quonset hut that we painted the floor in to make it nice and bright.

 

[stallion85]

Glad to hear you are going on the UA, that is a great honor if you ask me. It has always looked like a blast and will get you some great coverage for ORD

I can't wait to see you guys on 4 wheeler tv

Probably won't be for another 6months after the trip though

 

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

So where is the Ultimate Adventure Going this year????????

And don't worry Stephen, if y'all come through here, I'll personally make sure y'all don't get harassed by my buddies

 

[Stephen]

Actually Bubba, it's the other end of your state that I'm worried about. We should probably talk to find out how much trouble I could get in and see what easy things I could do to avoid it. If mudflaps solve problems on the road, I'm gettin some!
I'm not sure what the rules are regarding location disclosure so that's about all you get at this point.

This is a pretty big deal for us, both personally and business wise.

 

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

Mudflaps definately. Let me pull out my handy dandy OK State Statute book and give ya a rundown.

-Taillights and Brake Lights

-Headlights (Hi-beam, lo-beam)

-Tag Light (my personal favorite PC for a stop )

-If you have any auxilary lights up front, they cannot supplement the headlights or be used by themselves

-Turn signals

-Exhaust. This one is so wide open to officer interpetation it's not even funny. Basically it's illegal to operate without a muffler or have the system modified to increase noise; so basically even though my K5 is pretty much stock, the Flowmaster One Chamber could be considered a violation. I don't know how they are over there, but around these parts, it's more used as a reason to stop someone when the cops want to get into something.

-Got to have windshield wipers.

That's the basics as far as I can see. You shouldn't have a problem

 

[Bullet]

Stock frame also helps to keep it "Street Legal"
It is far from technical street legality but way closer than my buggy.

UA is about 800 miles on pavement in the southern midwest this year.

That's what I was thinking, since there was so many street miles, the vehicles have to be street legal. I remember a couple of UA's ago there was a Scout that evolved into a buggy like Wally and they got hassled by the fuzz a lot.

 

[thebigdaddyof2]

-Tag Light (my personal favorite PC for a stop )

This is exactly what I was going to post.
I believe this is the #1 thing that will guarantee a citation- even if you have other items.

Good luck on the buildup for the UA!

 

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

This is exactly what I was going to post.
I believe this is the #1 thing that will guarantee a citation- even if you have other items.

Good luck on the buildup for the UA!

Most everyone I know will not issue a citation for it, we just use it for PC to stop. Usually a citation is issued if an arrest is made.

 

[CK5]

It's going to work better than it did and it worked pretty darn good before.

I can vouch for that, especialy after seeing it climb out of Carnage Canyon (BV) unassisted. Can't wait to see it finished.

 

[CK5]

If mudflaps solve problems on the road, I'm gettin some!

Make sure to get the "Keep on Truckin" ones with the chrome girl on them.

 

[Stephen]

I typically get stopped for tail lights or plate light running around here. I end up trolling a lot though, I pull out of our shop late at night and usually accelerate slow to let the vehicle warm up and next thing I know there's funny lights behind me. Then I get to explain that I'm not really drunk, I'm just driving like it. My favorite (totally off subject here) was when I'd had a headlight out and saw the CSP at the bottom or our hill so I just turned around headed back to the shop (at midnight). He stopped me in the driveway for me to explain how I was going back to change my headlight.

I sometimes wonder if my plate light really is out....

Anyway, I plan on having the lights all funtional. I run the snowplow lights so I have a DOT hi/lo beam and a blinker/marker, I have tail/brake/blinkers and I have a bulb on the plate but will probably upgrade to a little nicer light. We're doing a windshield and wiper (maybe even wiperS) and the current plan is to run a little axle mounted fender like Fred Williams did last year on the Taco.
Headlight height is reasonable, shouldn't be over anyone's limits and hopefully we don't run in to any bumper height or type problems since I really don't have any. My plan is to try to cover the general safe/curteous areas and beg for mercy on the rest. I'm really hoping that as long as we drive safe and unobtrusive we stay somewhat under the radar. (aeronautically speaking I guess, I'd prefer that there be no radar involved in a vehicle).
I mounted the a couple of the new IROKs with the pneumatic badlocks yesterday so that package is all legal and shouldn't raise any flags.

Sounds like we have the basics covered in OK, I should call Frisbie and find out about MO.

Progress on Wally: Wheel mods figured out (Had to move the valvestem and for the tube stem on the beadlock) and 2 tires mounted. Crossmember fabrication and rear lower link arm mounts mostly done, have a bit more gusseting/skidplating to finish. It's heavy but should be able to take bouncing the entire vehicle weight on it.
I'll have to get some pics a little later

 

[84gmcjimmy]

We'll be waiting for pictures

 

[Stephen]

Chrome hotties - check


It's not really my style but maybe it'll help us fit in.

 

[85m1009]

Sounds like we have the basics covered in OK, I should call Frisbie and find out about MO.

If it meets the safety criteria for Colorado it's ok here in Missouri. We can't impose stricter rules because you are not a MO resident. You should find that holds true in most all states.

 

[mudnmyvayne]

If it meets the safety criteria for Colorado it's ok here in Missouri. We can't impose stricter rules because you are not a MO resident. You should find that holds true in most all states.

This is a good tip to know,thanks.

 

[Stephen]

Thanks for chiming in Steve.
I thought there was some rule about taking your legal vehicle to another state too but I talked to a trooper here and looked through colo state vehicle regs and found nothing on a reciprocity type law. The trooper did say they usually don't give out of staters a hard time on anything but the safety basics (lights, etc) but he didn't know of a specific law.

Is there some kind of state to state agreement that works on this? Colo. doesn't have fender coverage laws so I could get away without the mini fenders but it's also smart to fit in where possible.

Where I'd really like to find out about reciprocity laws is in dealing with utah. I want to avoid being hassled driving to the trails in Moab.

This is kind of turning into the "make your truggy legal" post so we might change the title a bit but it's good info.

I did get an update on the motor, I'll pick it up tomorrow and we're actually going to call it a 504 cid since it comes out to 503.55 when we do the math.
Floorboards are just about done so I think I'll get a pic of the floor and boatside job pretty soon. The crossmember is just about finished also, that's a nice piece to look at too.

 

[88K5Jimmy]

Mudflaps definately. Let me pull out my handy dandy OK State Statute book and give ya a rundown.

-Taillights and Brake Lights

-Headlights (Hi-beam, lo-beam)

-Tag Light (my personal favorite PC for a stop )

-If you have any auxilary lights up front, they cannot supplement the headlights or be used by themselves

-Turn signals

-Exhaust. This one is so wide open to officer interpetation it's not even funny. Basically it's illegal to operate without a muffler or have the system modified to increase noise; so basically even though my K5 is pretty much stock, the Flowmaster One Chamber could be considered a violation. I don't know how they are over there, but around these parts, it's more used as a reason to stop someone when the cops want to get into something.

-Got to have windshield wipers.

That's the basics as far as I can see. You shouldn't have a problem

So what is the criteria for mudflaps in OK and what by supplement, they can't be on to aid the headlights on road?

Thanks

 

[Bubba Ray Boudreaux]

I've talked to troopers in my area also about the whole state to state issue and basically the conclusion has been that the vehicle has to abide by whatever state it's in, not where it's registered; but for the most part, we don't mess with the little stuff with out of state people, it makes for bad business..............

So what is the criteria for mudflaps in OK and what by supplement, they can't be on to aid the headlights on road

The auxilary lights cannot be on with the low beams, and they cannot be on by themselves; they can only be on with the high beams. That's state law, but in reality, there's not a lot of us that actually stop for this except when we are looking for "other" things.

As for mud flaps, the vehicle fenders on the rear have to cover the tire or you are supposed to have mud flaps. A certain culture of people around here get stopped on this a lot because they like their low profile, super duper wide tires.

 

[6.2Blazer]

I've talked to troopers in my area also about the whole state to state issue and basically the conclusion has been that the vehicle has to abide by whatever state it's in, not where it's registered; but for the most part, we don't mess with the little stuff with out of state people, it makes for bad business..............

That was my understanding also. It's kind of the same idea behind having different speed limits in different states while traveling on an interstate highway "sorry officer, I know the speed limit is 65 mph on I-75 in Ohio but I'm from Michigan and it's 70 mph there.......so I thought it was okay to run 70 here". I'm not saying I necessarily agree with it, but that was my understanding of it.

The auxilary lights cannot be on with the low beams, and they cannot be on by themselves; they can only be on with the high beams. That's state law, but in reality, there's not a lot of us that actually stop for this except when we are looking for "other" things.

This could be an interesting subject. How do they classify factory installed optional auxilliary lights? Both my truck and my wife's car have factory installed fog lights that you turn on seperately from the headlights........but they are wired to only come on with the low beams. My last truck had the same setup also. Can they get around this law if there are factory installed?