I started making a new bumper this weekend for no particular reason other then I had some tube laying around. its 2 in .120 wall hrew tube. I have not even finished my other bumper yet, I just want to get the tube off the garage floor. will be a winch bumper. winch will recess under core support. still need to add the raparound side tubes that tie the ends to the stinger. im also going to add verticle tubes right in the center of the bend radius at the corner of the fender that goes straight up and ties into the tube that ties the end to the stinger. this will help protect the head light assembly better. I think I might try and sell this one when im done with it or throw it on my burb, havn't decided yet.