01maroonz71
1/2 ton status
perfect man. thanks.
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STILL TRYIN TO GET IT RUNNIN. STILL WONT FIRE!!! page 3
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anytime... Throw a beer back for me when she lights off...
01maroonz71
1/2 ton status
haha....if you were closer, i'd invite you over tomm for a few. you can even watch as i fire my first motor swap/translplant! thanks again bro.
~dave
~dave
01maroonz71
1/2 ton status
****UPDATE****
Well, here's the deal. something fishy is going on. because not only did i find TDC as stated above, and it still backfired just the same. but i did it again to make sure. The dizzy definately isn't 180 out, or out at all for that matter. i pulled the timing mark to 0degrees BTDC on the timing tab and laced from 1 out from that point on the dizzy. which set plug one in the 8 o'clock position when looking dead at dizzy. my haynes manual says it should be at the 5 or 6 oclock position for HEI or for points. why would it be pointing at the 8 oclock position, could it be because the motor if from a G20??? won't all SBC's have the same firing order???? this is killing me guys!!!!!
thanks again
~dave
Well, here's the deal. something fishy is going on. because not only did i find TDC as stated above, and it still backfired just the same. but i did it again to make sure. The dizzy definately isn't 180 out, or out at all for that matter. i pulled the timing mark to 0degrees BTDC on the timing tab and laced from 1 out from that point on the dizzy. which set plug one in the 8 o'clock position when looking dead at dizzy. my haynes manual says it should be at the 5 or 6 oclock position for HEI or for points. why would it be pointing at the 8 oclock position, could it be because the motor if from a G20??? won't all SBC's have the same firing order???? this is killing me guys!!!!!
thanks again
~dave
I don't know about your Haynes and this whole 8 o'clock thing, most sb's have it pointing at a cylinder, #1..
That doesn't matter anyway... Like I told you in the first post, if you wanna be fussy, pull it and drop it wherever you want... 1 cyl, 8'clock, the glovebox, it doesn't matter.. It's all in where each plug wire gets fired in relation to the rotor and valvetrain..
If you want to do that, go to TDC, if you didn't know this, you can also find tdc by pulling the ds valve cover.. turn the motor over till the #1 intake valve has opened, come back down, the next time the mark reaches 0, it WILL be at TDC..
drop the dizzy a little before the spot you want to be, if the oil pump shaft doesn't allow it to drop all the way you can either use the bump method to get it to drop, or just repull it, take a long flatblade and turn the pump shaft, thats my prefered method...
I don't know what else to tell you at this point.. BTW, the reason your not at the position it says you should be in, is because your not dropping the dizzy in at tdc, orientating it the way they say, you already have it in.. but again, it should still fire if you've follow what I've told you, ASSuming there is no other issue... But hey, I'm not there..
Is it cranking good? Or is it inconsistent?
That doesn't matter anyway... Like I told you in the first post, if you wanna be fussy, pull it and drop it wherever you want... 1 cyl, 8'clock, the glovebox, it doesn't matter.. It's all in where each plug wire gets fired in relation to the rotor and valvetrain..
If you want to do that, go to TDC, if you didn't know this, you can also find tdc by pulling the ds valve cover.. turn the motor over till the #1 intake valve has opened, come back down, the next time the mark reaches 0, it WILL be at TDC..
drop the dizzy a little before the spot you want to be, if the oil pump shaft doesn't allow it to drop all the way you can either use the bump method to get it to drop, or just repull it, take a long flatblade and turn the pump shaft, thats my prefered method...
I don't know what else to tell you at this point.. BTW, the reason your not at the position it says you should be in, is because your not dropping the dizzy in at tdc, orientating it the way they say, you already have it in.. but again, it should still fire if you've follow what I've told you, ASSuming there is no other issue... But hey, I'm not there..
Is it cranking good? Or is it inconsistent?
01maroonz71
1/2 ton status
once it gets spark it's very inconsistant, like the order is wrong. i know it's firing cylinder one correctly.
the order im using is 18436572. could this be different for a 350 out of a 92 van, or would they all be the same
the order im using is 18436572. could this be different for a 350 out of a 92 van, or would they all be the same
they are all the same... did you verify rotor rotation?
01maroonz71
1/2 ton status
yes i did. man, i feel like i've checked everything like 100times
im gonna go get back on it tomm after work, i know this is gonna be soemthing stupid and im gonna be like damn it!!!! thanks man.
im gonna go get back on it tomm after work, i know this is gonna be soemthing stupid and im gonna be like damn it!!!! thanks man.
Unless I'm misunderstanding what you are writing, or you haven't spelled it out, it sounds like you are a bit off on your theory of how it should work, or just haven't explained it clearly.
If the motor is at TDC, (you've made sure piston was coming up on the compression stroke, and stopped at the top of piston travel) and your rotor is pointing to cylinder number 8, when you put the cap on, the #1 plug wire *needs to be on the cap terminal where the rotor was pointing*. In your case, looking down on the distributor, number 8 cylinder is what, about 8 o'clock? So if the rotor is pointing at 8 o'clock, you need the cap terminal lined up as best you can with the rotor, then start your firing order sequence from THAT terminal. (which will be about 8 o'clock when looking down on the distributor)
I see that was already said, but is that what you did?
If you pulled the distributor, and lined the rotor up facing number 1 cylinder, then the stuff in the books would probably make sense.
If the motor is at TDC, (you've made sure piston was coming up on the compression stroke, and stopped at the top of piston travel) and your rotor is pointing to cylinder number 8, when you put the cap on, the #1 plug wire *needs to be on the cap terminal where the rotor was pointing*. In your case, looking down on the distributor, number 8 cylinder is what, about 8 o'clock? So if the rotor is pointing at 8 o'clock, you need the cap terminal lined up as best you can with the rotor, then start your firing order sequence from THAT terminal. (which will be about 8 o'clock when looking down on the distributor)
I see that was already said, but is that what you did?
If you pulled the distributor, and lined the rotor up facing number 1 cylinder, then the stuff in the books would probably make sense.
dyeager535 said:
Thanks Dorian, I probably should have said something like this... wierd trying to type out explanations sometimes.. sometimes basic concepts for one, are not basic for another..
