yep, chisel and hammer.
Ran into the same thing last year.
Ran into the same thing last year.
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Stuck oil filter! WTF Never seen one so stuck
- Thread starter Rtull32
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I swear I have the best little mini sledge eva.. 
got it off the Mac truck about 10 yr's.. short little 3 lb'er... composity type handle.. green head, black handle.. thing rocks, my boss is ALWAYS stealing it from me...
and this is another one of those ones where I'll say, it's hard to beat snappy when it comes to cold chisels, hold an edge better than anything..
oh, tool tip for the masses, NEVER sharpen a cold chisel with a grinder.. you've now destroyed it... sharpen only with a flat file in a vise...
got it off the Mac truck about 10 yr's.. short little 3 lb'er... composity type handle.. green head, black handle.. thing rocks, my boss is ALWAYS stealing it from me...
and this is another one of those ones where I'll say, it's hard to beat snappy when it comes to cold chisels, hold an edge better than anything..
oh, tool tip for the masses, NEVER sharpen a cold chisel with a grinder.. you've now destroyed it... sharpen only with a flat file in a vise...
I have used an air chisel to get a few stuck filters off,after ripping the can part off trying conventional methods like oil filter band wrenches,"cap" wrenches,and spearing the filter can with various tools.....
I put the chisel in one of those holes in the base and let it rip...a lot of the base was torn up bad before it finally came free,but no damage to the sealing surfaces on the engine was done..
One filter that was really welded on good needed to be heated with a torch,after we tore it down to the base--of course the oil started flaming,but in about 10 seconds the rubber gasket from the filter melted,then it was finally able to be removed..a co-worker used a ball joint fork stuck into the base plate holes and turned it with a pipe wrench..it still came off hard!..I had to stand ready with the hose while he heated it up with the torch...
I put the chisel in one of those holes in the base and let it rip...a lot of the base was torn up bad before it finally came free,but no damage to the sealing surfaces on the engine was done..
One filter that was really welded on good needed to be heated with a torch,after we tore it down to the base--of course the oil started flaming,but in about 10 seconds the rubber gasket from the filter melted,then it was finally able to be removed..a co-worker used a ball joint fork stuck into the base plate holes and turned it with a pipe wrench..it still came off hard!..I had to stand ready with the hose while he heated it up with the torch...
beags86
Eastbound and Down
It's not destroyed... You just need to hand file it down until your out of the HAZ.
I had a hell of a time getting the oil filter off my mom's 04 Trailblazer. I had to take the skid plate off just to get to it, then after about 2 hours of trying to get it off with an oil filter wrench, then the type you put on a ratchet, and then a screwdriver, eventually I ended up ripping the body of it off, like how yours is. I ended up borrowing some kind of homemade socket that he welded a piece of 1/2 in plate to, and put three studs through like the thing you made already, but his was welded together, and thats what got mine out.
My 2010 impala came from the dealer with the filter cranked right on.
If you have changed oil on one you know what I'm talking about when I say there is no space. Took 3 hours with couple screw drivers.
If you have changed oil on one you know what I'm talking about when I say there is no space. Took 3 hours with couple screw drivers.
depends on the size of chisel and how aggressive they are.. I've seen guys blue a 1/2" of the tip.. have fun hand filing that out..
Don't even have to do that. Unless you burned the carbon out, just retemper it. Heat it good and hot and quench it.
If its fairly thick, water is OK, If there are thin places, you might want to go to salt water or oil.
Then temper it. Polish it until you can see shiny metal. Heat it slowly from the thickest part watching the color change.
I would quench it when the edge gets straw color. If it chips when you use it, go closer to gunmetal color. (Purple).
Then next time, when you need to sharpen it, use a wet grinder like one of these.
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-wet-6-inch-dry-grinder-35098.html
https://www.grizzly.com/products/T10010
You won't draw the temper of a piece of steel when it never gets hotter than 212F.
If its fairly thick, water is OK, If there are thin places, you might want to go to salt water or oil.
Then temper it. Polish it until you can see shiny metal. Heat it slowly from the thickest part watching the color change.
I would quench it when the edge gets straw color. If it chips when you use it, go closer to gunmetal color. (Purple).
Then next time, when you need to sharpen it, use a wet grinder like one of these.
http://www.harborfreight.com/8-inch-wet-6-inch-dry-grinder-35098.html
https://www.grizzly.com/products/T10010
You won't draw the temper of a piece of steel when it never gets hotter than 212F.
Get a pair of these needle nose pliers and put the tips in the round drain holes and turn it off.
Then for future oil changes get metal end cap style filter wrench. Make sure the filter you buy has the socket type end on it.
Then for future oil changes get metal end cap style filter wrench. Make sure the filter you buy has the socket type end on it.
Rtull32
1/2 ton status
The pliers are a good idea work has kept me away from getting back to it. I have the metal cap wrench and used it first it wouldn't budge it just kept rounding of the filter, so I got out the sand paper to help it grip still wouldn't bite hard enough to get it off. I'm using a k&n oil filter with the nut on the end next time even though I don't plan on needing it.
I've seen some stuck ones but d@mn! I saw the thread and was going to tell you to shove a screwdriver through the side and loosen it that way, but it appears you are past that point!
That PO must of went to town. Why do people do this, anyone that uses a tool to tighten an oil filter is just asking for trouble. Some oil on the seal and snug it up by hand and you are good.
That PO must of went to town. Why do people do this, anyone that uses a tool to tighten an oil filter is just asking for trouble. Some oil on the seal and snug it up by hand and you are good.
Ned Kelly
1/2 ton status
All I can say is I hope I never come across this problem.
Rtull32
1/2 ton status
Yes quite a way past that! I went and bought a heat gun and a better chisel so hopefully I can get it off with that.
I hope you dont! This has been the most frustrating thing I have ever done to any vehicle!
I've just resorted to using a really big pair of "tongue and groove" pliers (channel locks) on filters that resist loosening by hand. I tighten by hand, normally they will come off the same way, if they won't, out come the channel locks. I have resorted to screwdriver through filter prior to channel locks, that did not work. I've got both the camming steel strap type filter wrenches, plus the plastic socket style wrenches, neither work as good as channel locks when they are stuck a bit.
Don't think a fancy/pricey filter is a requirement, I don't follow oil change recommendations on my truck, which sits far more than it's driven, and gets a once a year filter change, yet I can still get the filter off with minimal effort. I *do* run the longer filters, which does make it a bit easier to grip.
Obviously in this case channel locks weren't likely a viable solution, but for the future they might be.
Don't think a fancy/pricey filter is a requirement, I don't follow oil change recommendations on my truck, which sits far more than it's driven, and gets a once a year filter change, yet I can still get the filter off with minimal effort. I *do* run the longer filters, which does make it a bit easier to grip.
Obviously in this case channel locks weren't likely a viable solution, but for the future they might be.
Rtull32
1/2 ton status
Actually I used channel locks before it got to this point that also didn't do it. I literally used every method I knew of and even googled some new ones. Eventually the filter was so trashed I had to tear it off and attempt to beat it or with a hammer and chisel, which after an hour still hadn't broke it loose.
Did you try a mini sledge like ryoken recommended? I was trying to use a smaller hammer and it ended up being a mini sledge that broke that bastard off. I know your frustration well......I had to walk away at one point I was so pissed off.
Rtull32
1/2 ton status
I was using a 3 lb sledge but the handle was to long. So when I bought new chisels I went ahead and grabbed a 4 lb mini sledge. If work slows up this week I will get back at it.
