Super 10 bolt?

[muddybuddy]

im sure you could spend $3k to get a fully decked out 10b and be able to do a couple hardcore runs with 38-40" tires in a k5. you could spend that same $3k into a d60 and be able to run several hardcore runs with 44" tires and heavy pedal in a k5. if you dont plan on going bigger, then i guess put money into a 10b? i could never do that. a fully built 10b will sell for a fraction of what a built d60 will sell for. me? id build a 60 and keep going bigger an option in the future its the ck5 way...you cant stop


what i wana know, is how are the toy axles so strong? ive seen people running 40-42s on them and they dont have problems? isnt there ring gear like 8" or something small like that? granted toys weight less, but still. how do they do it?

 

[MattK]

dana 60 was only in the 1 tons as far as i know. most 3/4 tons had either 8 lug d44's or 8 lug 10 bolts. for the sake of simplicity, i would search for only chevy ones.

with the 14, there aren't really any years to search specifically for. there was a year in the late 80s i believe that the 14bolts changed. it causes some issues with swapping to disc brakes and a couple other things i believe.

 

[gmc4cw]

Dana 60 out of a 1 ton. 14 bolt FF out of a 3/4 ton. the one ton 14 bolts had a different spring spacing.

 

[Col_Sanders]

what i wana know, is how are the toy axles so strong? ive seen people running 40-42s on them and they dont have problems? isnt there ring gear like 8" or something small like that? granted toys weight less, but still. how do they do it?

Lightweight and 90hp. Its harder to break when you arent putting down any power.

 

[marv_springer]

What if I replaced my built up 12 and 10 bolts and put them in a very light buggy? Something around 1500 lbs? Would they be strong enough?

You're prolly not gonna get as light as 1500 lb...

Think about it this way... 1/2 ton crap holds up to mild use under a stock heavy Blazer!

The Marvzda:

Marv

 

[6.2Blazer]

what i wana know, is how are the toy axles so strong? ive seen people running 40-42s on them and they dont have problems? isnt there ring gear like 8" or something small like that? granted toys weight less, but still. how do they do it?

It's about the same as if you were running 38" tires under 10-bolts in an K5. They won't instanteously explode or anything, and you might get a ride or two out of them, but eventually they will break. I run with several 'yota guys with 37's or skinny 38's, and they all have aftermarket parts in the diffs but I have seen all of them break something (this is with stock or mildly modified 4-bangers). We did have one guys show up with a stock axle with 42's and a locker, and he broke a birfield on the first "real" trail he was on, and the place really wasn't that tough. It was a rut that placed all of the weight on one side when climbing out of it, and that's all it took. I've seen various other vehicles go through the same spot at least 50 times with failures. The other failures were a grenaded ring gear and a broke axleshaft (which also took out the Detroit).

 

[sincity78]

Here is a (poor) video of my brother beating on my truck.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6467977260652053023

38's, 4.56's (detroit rear), 10/12bolt.

 

[79chevyk10]

Okay after ten pages I wasn't sure if I could add to it or not. Let me say this, I am a perfect example of been there done that. I put Superior chromo axles in my D44 with CTM u-joints, lockrite locker, Yukon 4.56's gears, warn premium hubs along with new ball joints and Sky high steer. Also put Superior HD shafts in the rear 12 bolt along with a Detroit locker. Ran 36" SX's. Had alot of fun for 2 years with that combo. Ran Rubicon, Dusy, Swamp Lake and tons of local Pismo beach beating and tons of Hollister and rock pile wheelin and lots of Pozo wheeling. Purposely kept the tires to 36" due to ball joints not handling more than 37" max on a heavy rig that really wheels IMO. The D44 never gave me any problems but the 12 bolt sure did. When ever I hammered that thing up a ledge or bounce for traction on a rock pile I spun the rear tube in the center section twice at two different times, got it stick welded up really well after the second time (at hollister) and installed a traction bar. Beat on it some more and decided to sell it all before I broke anything else and bought some M1008 D60/14FF combo and all the fixings. I wanted to double up the tcases and didn't trust the 1/2 ton stuff even with 36"
Bottom line, if you want to run big tires 38 or larger and like to chanllange yourself and your rig, just go 1 ton. It will be cheaper in the long run, trust me!! This excludes light weight tube buggies on K5 frames.