Yep!
It was yours that gave me the idea, and I think ssyork's had an idea or two that I incorporated into mine also.
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T-case & Doubler comparison thread...
- Thread starter TheBeast_88K5
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Yep!
It was yours that gave me the idea, and I think ssyork's had an idea or two that I incorporated into mine also.
Gimmie a minute , I'll see if I can find it
Here ya go
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1010750. Post 9
Yep Ive been following that thread. It seems the figure 8 pattern case is available with some lead time, but the round pattern is still in work. I have the round pattern case.
That may be next years project for my K30, I already have the round 205, a spare short 32 input laying around, so at some point I'll find a 241 and go from there.
Thanks man!
I have a username there. The whole (hole?) "As the PBB turns." just pisses me off.
Homey don't do drama! Least not on da interweb!
I just lurk, read tech and look at pictures over there, I think my post count is around 10
Yep I have the round 205 and am picking up my 241 soon for $60. Just need to find the short 32 spl input.
IF you start with a trans of your choice and the 203 together, that eliminates some cost up front.
If like me, you decide to upgrade all shafts to 32 spline-1410's, it costs a considerable amount more, but for a SBC I wouldn't worry about it.
Then you got the triple sticks, which after some convincing, I agree that they are the best way to go, with exception of Ryokens cable shifters.
I think I have about 2K into my setup including everything from the trans output to t/c outputs front and rear.
So at that amount of $$$$ what was your reasoning to not just buy an atlas or something along those lines? You would save alot of time doing it that way correct?
that's funny, my local pick n pulls any t case is $60. I ended up with the short input after hours of research told me that was the way to go for my 4500/ round 205 behind my 12 valve, once mocked up and I saw the amount of material that had to be removed 
I went with the AA spacer and the long input setup. Something about weakening the tail housing of a trans behind a 1000+ ftlb engine didn't feel right 
63chevyll
1/2 ton status
For the hell off it, has anyone here ran an atlas? Just curious if CK5 ers would put one in their rig.
I like the 241/205 option and extra gear but for me the initial price for any doubler is either paid with time or money.
And only Cuz I don't know, is there any issues with the 241 being aluminum and weaker? I'm only saying weaker due to the case.
I like the 241/205 option and extra gear but for me the initial price for any doubler is either paid with time or money.
And only Cuz I don't know, is there any issues with the 241 being aluminum and weaker? I'm only saying weaker due to the case.
I know several guys running atlas cases and i really like em. Would run one in a second if i could afford a 4 speed one, i use horton for all kinds of wheelin so having 2 ranges is pretty handy. I have been with rigs that need to shift into high range for bits of the trail or are constantly stoppinng to shift when my single low works perfect there, then just engage double low when needed.
I think my kit was around 550 my cases cost 50 bucks and i did a triple stick for about 20 bucks crossmembers were about 30 bucks so my whole doubler cost me 650 so quite a long ways from an atlas
I think my kit was around 550 my cases cost 50 bucks and i did a triple stick for about 20 bucks crossmembers were about 30 bucks so my whole doubler cost me 650 so quite a long ways from an atlas
TDAWG1
1/2 ton status
ORD now has a new Style they have made that offers more Gear, is 60lbs lighter and probablly 99% stronger. its called the Magnum Box. call and as about it, Its pretty amazing what they have assembled over there.
I have heard stories of Failures of many kinds some small some Big with other styles of Doublers, Not so much with the ORD doubler. However, Im sure some of that is use and or how it was installed. So What i can tell you is I have an ORD gen1 Doubler and with exception to the weight ( not that big a deal) or the fact that I dont have that Shiney Billit piece that they have on the newer stuff. Im extatic about it. I Love everything about it, sometimes I wish it had this or did tha but thats everything we build or use isnt it? Great Topic Look forward to seeing what else comes up.
I have heard stories of Failures of many kinds some small some Big with other styles of Doublers, Not so much with the ORD doubler. However, Im sure some of that is use and or how it was installed. So What i can tell you is I have an ORD gen1 Doubler and with exception to the weight ( not that big a deal) or the fact that I dont have that Shiney Billit piece that they have on the newer stuff. Im extatic about it. I Love everything about it, sometimes I wish it had this or did tha but thats everything we build or use isnt it? Great Topic Look forward to seeing what else comes up.
TDAWG1
1/2 ton status
Quote:
Originally Posted by 63chevyll
For the hell off it, has anyone here ran an atlas? Just curious if CK5 ers would put one in their rig.
I like the 241/205 option and extra gear but for me the initial price for any doubler is either paid with time or money.
And only Cuz I don't know, is there any issues with the 241 being aluminum and weaker? I'm only saying weaker due to the case.
There are a few folks on here running the Atlas so hopefully they post up. Ive heard some neg. but mostly pos. about the unit.
Originally Posted by 63chevyll
For the hell off it, has anyone here ran an atlas? Just curious if CK5 ers would put one in their rig.
I like the 241/205 option and extra gear but for me the initial price for any doubler is either paid with time or money.
And only Cuz I don't know, is there any issues with the 241 being aluminum and weaker? I'm only saying weaker due to the case.
There are a few folks on here running the Atlas so hopefully they post up. Ive heard some neg. but mostly pos. about the unit.
mrdrinksalil
1/2 ton status
TheBeast_88K5
Banned
Hope no one minds the title change....
I'm mad as hell!
Not really . . . . .
Martin
Not really . . . . .
Martin
a 2 speed was like 2300$, mine is a 3speed. 1:1. 2:1, 4:1 ratios.
1410's outputs, and 32 spline throughout.
Perhaps if I knew then what I know now, I would have, but for me it was a learning curve, and the snowball kept rolling as I went along!
so much to regurgitate here, and I need to call it for the night.
clif notes:
you can't really compare pricing for any of this stuff to an atlas when what you end up with has the strength of a 205 and multiple gear ratios. Having 2 or more different low ranges really does make a difference.
We have the "241 stock rotation to fig8 205 2 inch up rotation" kits are ready to ship right now. Other versions are drawn and design work is finished, it's a matter of getting it all in production. Rotations options are pre-set since the bolt patterns all have to mesh.
any underdrive system using a 32 spline intermediate shaft is not what I would consider a true 4 speed in anything big since the intermediate shaft is always a weak link when the front box is in low and the rear is in high. Not everyone will break it but everyone should know about it.
The Magnum box fixes this problem and gives you a true 4 speed since the shaft between the underdrive gearset and the 205 is now big enough to support the underdrive's torque output. It's also 6.25" long, all new parts, user indexable, 33#, and generally pisses excellence.
behind a TH350:
pic of the "Chop Box" display from EJS:
clif notes:
you can't really compare pricing for any of this stuff to an atlas when what you end up with has the strength of a 205 and multiple gear ratios. Having 2 or more different low ranges really does make a difference.
We have the "241 stock rotation to fig8 205 2 inch up rotation" kits are ready to ship right now. Other versions are drawn and design work is finished, it's a matter of getting it all in production. Rotations options are pre-set since the bolt patterns all have to mesh.
any underdrive system using a 32 spline intermediate shaft is not what I would consider a true 4 speed in anything big since the intermediate shaft is always a weak link when the front box is in low and the rear is in high. Not everyone will break it but everyone should know about it.
The Magnum box fixes this problem and gives you a true 4 speed since the shaft between the underdrive gearset and the 205 is now big enough to support the underdrive's torque output. It's also 6.25" long, all new parts, user indexable, 33#, and generally pisses excellence.
behind a TH350:
pic of the "Chop Box" display from EJS:
wayne
3/4 ton status
I run a Atlas 4spd. It works great and I really like it better then the standard Doubler. Toss it in low and even down the steep hills it just chugs along at a crawl.
