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shady said:
There's pretty much nothing in a carb you can break, but if you did, a rebuild kit and a couple of hand tools.in the glove box will have you going in a half an HR....



If you had a carb anyway.. lol. As for the injection.... Way too many ways to fail in my book lol.
(Even though I AM still contemplating going FI :doah:).

Scrap your 6.2, get the gas version of said engine size, add forced induction of some kind, and drive the wheels off of it :D.
Or leave it alone and do the same lol.
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Well, I already have the same size engine, and I already have the forced induction.

All that's left to do is drive the wheels off of it. :thumb:
 
shady said:
If you had a carb anyway.. lol. As for the injection.... Way too many ways to fail in my book lol.
(Even though I AM still contemplating going FI :doah:).
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I disagree with this for any daily driver. Fuel injection has a much lower rate of failure, and a much higher rate of keeping the engine running. There are reasons no new cars use carburetors, and it's not just emissions. My comment was just that getting parts sucks when I'm 100 miles from the nearest (small) auto store, and unreliable carburetors are easier to hack together with baling wire.

For normal driving there is no comparison.
 
Never seen a carb (the carb its self) fail :dunno:. Only parts that can are float or maybe a gasket. Hence a rebuild kit in the glovebox if out on an excursion.

On the other hand I've had plenty of issues being stranded by FI in a few different vehicles lol. They're nice when they work. As long as they do.

Only reason I'm even mildly contemplating the FI again on mine is to prevent off angle issues.
Everyone has their own preference lol.

Its harder for me to trust electronic crap because I've made a pretty decent career out of fixing said crap when it stops working :haha:. Which in my world it does, alot, and usually with no previous warning.:doah:
 
shady said:
Its harder for me to trust electronic crap because I've made a pretty decent career out of fixing said crap when it stops working :haha:. Which in my world it does, alot, and usually with no previous warning.:doah:
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Yes, that is exactly how electronics tend to fail. :rolleyes: :rotfl:

I count a failure to start or any time I need to adjust/retune a carb as a failure. Compared to a self-tuning car, the carb needs a lot more babysitting. I don't like having a car that can't run at different elevations, temperatures, angles, etc. Modern stuff is nice. And TBI doesn't even count as modern anymore, carbs are several paradigms behind the times...
 
Carbs may be antiquated ,but I had very few problems with them daily driving my vehicles over 150 miles a day when I commuted to work in the 80's..even in the winter..yeah,you had to let the engine warm up a few minutes,and some days carb icing may be a pain,but overall they ran decent enough..

I prefer a hand choke over an automatic one,the choke and choke pull off were the two main troublemakers on carbs,rarely an accelerator pump would go sour..and a float once in a blue moon might sink,I replaced the foam ones in Quadrajets with brass when I put in jiffy kit in them when I first got the vehicle..foam was fine with leaded gas,but once ethanol started getting added,they would swell up or fall apart..carb kits had ethanol resistant accelerator pump piston cups too..

Most of the 350's and 454's I had got up to 15 mph on highway runs with carbs--Q-jets were the best for more MPG,the small primary barrels sipped fuel ..but booting in the secondaries would make a gallon vanish in a 1/4 mile with a big block..

I am not saying they are better than EFI,but they can be fiddled with and get you home 90% of the time if a problem develops,with EFI it can have one of dozens of things happen to kill the engine and your left scratching your head on the side of the road..
I'm no fan of in-tank electric fuel pumps either...those crap out ,your boned..and it sucks dropping the tank to replace one..

I have used the windshield washer pump as a fuel pump substitute to get home a few times when a mechanical fuel pump decided to quit--or you can gravity feed a carb too..and on a SBC it takes about 20 minutes to change the fuel pump..
 
campfire said:
Yes. I have a nearly-new replacement solenoid left over from a previous round of solenoid failures years ago (lifetime warranty, even :rolleyes:). I decided to relocate the solenoid because there's no safe way to jumper the terminals when I'm out in the woods. The turbine downpipe is just too close to sneak some metal tool up there. Had I been able to manually connect those terminals, I would not have been on the tow strap all those times last summer. That's why I'm relocating the solenoid. As a preventative thing. Just in case. This is not the first time I've had a similar solenoid issue, nor the second, nor the third. Mexican rebuilds from Autozone just aren't great units. Half the parts are shiny and the other half are ready to fail. If I had an OEM-quality starter, I probably wouldn't worry about it. But I haven't seen respectable brands offering new versions of this starter for a few years now. Let me know if I'm wrong...
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Do you have the gear reduction starter?
I bought mine new, online for $75.
Can't remember the brand now but they are out there.
Do not buy rebuilt.
Always new
 
I bought a rebuilt starter when I had my 6.2 burb. Because, cheap lol.
About the 3rd or 4th time I hit the key the nose snapped off and it fell out under my truck in the work parking lot :doah:
 
shady said:
I bought a rebuilt starter when I had my 6.2 burb. Because, cheap lol.
About the 3rd or 4th time I hit the key the nose snapped off and it fell out under my truck in the work parking lot :doah:
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Didn't the front brace hold up the other half of the starter?

You know...assuming you installed the brace...
 
Didn't have any brace when I got it :dunno:.

Very likely wasn't the stock starter though either. It'd seen a few miles before I got it lol.
 
imiceman44 said:
Do you have the gear reduction starter?
I bought mine new, online for $75.
Can't remember the brand now but they are out there.
Do not buy rebuilt.
Always new
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Yes, I have the gear reduction starter. Yes, Chinese knockoff starters can be bought new for <$100. I have a hard time trusting them, either. You're probably right about them being marginally better than the rebuilds. But that's like saying a stock 6.2 is a faster drag race engine than a stock 1982 350. It's technically true, but the argument is pointless. There's no point in racing a stock engine from that era anyways. Neither option is a good one.
 
campfire said:
Yes, I have the gear reduction starter. Yes, Chinese knockoff starters can be bought new for <$100. I have a hard time trusting them, either. You're probably right about them being marginally better than the rebuilds. But that's like saying a stock 6.2 is a faster drag race engine than a stock 1982 350. It's technically true, but the argument is pointless. There's no point in racing a stock engine from that era anyways. Neither option is a good one.
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My point is that the best option available is a new starter and I research the company before I buy.
Chinese or not some companies do make good products
 
imiceman44 said:
My point is that the best option available is a new starter and I research the company before I buy.
Chinese or not some companies do make good products
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I'm not hoping to need a new starter (ever again), but I'm happy to collect the recommendation now. Just in case.

Do you remember the brand, and why you thought it produced quality products?
 
campfire said:
I'm not hoping to need a new starter (ever again), but I'm happy to collect the recommendation now. Just in case.

Do you remember the brand, and why you thought it produced quality products?
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It's been 12 years so I don't remember but they had plenty of good reviews as opposed to some of the others.
 
Bought new bat-trees for my 6.2...time to get it running. Got a new 40 gal tank and electric fuel pump & harness. Gonna change the dampner & timing chain set get her going.

She sits higher than the k10 burb, thinking hard on swapping it to 4x

Hijack off. Just wanna play with the cool kids again! Lol
 
imiceman44 said:
It's been 12 years so I don't remember but they had plenty of good reviews as opposed to some of the others.
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12 years ago I could have bought a brand new starter from Bosch or my local Chevy dealer. But those are out of production now. I would have trusted those more than the knockoffs I can find for sale today.
 
Big Ray said:
Hijack off. Just wanna play with the cool kids again! Lol
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Cool kids, eh? Some folks find coolness by installing air conditioning. Others find it by moving further North.

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Bosch is what I bought the last time I had to get a starter. Been a while lol. I didn't realize they weren't available now.
 
campfire said:
Yes, that is exactly how electronics tend to fail. :rolleyes: :rotfl:

I count a failure to start or any time I need to adjust/retune a carb as a failure. Compared to a self-tuning car, the carb needs a lot more babysitting. I don't like having a car that can't run at different elevations, temperatures, angles, etc. Modern stuff is nice. And TBI doesn't even count as modern anymore, carbs are several paradigms behind the times...
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Sounds like someone needs to bolt up a carb to their 6.2.:haha:
 
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