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The Great Smaug

Speaking of carb's I had a Quadrajet on a 400sbc in a GMC Jimmy and I had that thing nose up, nose down and at some pretty harry side angle's without a stumble...

Also drove with a carb from S.E. WI all the way out to Cali in back through the mountains both ways in a Buick wagon with a 400 and had no issue's. A lot of the issue's people have with Carb's is there shit when they get them.
What I mean is.... there used up or wore out when you try and use them.
Example..
I had a 72 Duster that I built a 440 for .030 over 10.5-1 .590 hydraulic cam ..blah blah blah.. Brand new motor and trans etc. So I bolted on a rebuilt 750 double pumper carb that was done by the Carb shop "back in the day" and it started great ran good until warm. Then it would go dead lean, popping and banging etc. Shut it off and walked away, come back a couple hours later and it'd start right up and idle great. But after it got warm same issue, I messed around with that thing for a weeks on and off. I finally saved up enough money and bought a Barry Grant 850 bolted it on and it was night and day difference. The car started and ran awesome took it to the track multiple time and it would go faster each time.

Upon further inspection to the original 750 the throttle shafts bushings were wore out and when the carb got warm it would suck air past the bushings and throw the tune off. A lot of time heavy throttle return springs put undue strain on the shafts and bushings.I tore that carb down and replaced the bushing and rebuilt it again myself and it worked great. I o ringed the throttle shafts to use it on a blow through SBC but sold the whole works to someone who was still using it.

If you ever buy a used carb just be prepared for a bit o tuning and possibly a full tear down.

That's why I went with a new 750 truck avenger on the Jeep.
 
But it runs so nicely! Why would I want to ruin that?

Fuel injection FTW!

Now go rebuild your "indestructable" 4.0L heap...

:haha:
My indestructable heap didn't start rod knocking until I pulled a stuck someone out of a precarious situation on a long greasy hill.

And it made it from North of Marquette past Escanaba before overheating.

And it maybe getting a engine swap when I can figure out which way I want to go with it.. I do have a couple of 6.2's sitting around the shop.....Now I just gotta figure out how to make a carb work on one..
 
My indestructable heap didn't start rod knocking until I pulled a stuck someone out of a precarious situation on a long greasy hill.

And it made it from North of Marquette past Escanaba before overheating.

And it maybe getting a engine swap when I can figure out which way I want to go with it.. I do have a couple of 6.2's sitting around the shop.....Now I just gotta figure out how to make a carb work on one..

I guess you get to be the trailblazer next time? Or maybe you can walk home from Ford River. :rolleyes:

They widened their parking lot since then. You could park several heaps now. :haha:
 
And that's not true! The knocking started before the stucktion happened. :deal:

I'm not sure I'd call that precarious, either...

Well call it what you will but you can't dispute the facts... and there might have been a bit of knocking but it wasn't the a rod it had a broke piston skirt. Hence why it knocked worse when the engine was cold.
Rod knock started after.
 
The 4.0 info has actually been cool. Piston skirt huh :thinking:. I'm about to tear my mom's Heep apart because it's knocking real slightly.
Tried convincing her a 4.8 or 5.3 would maybe fit, bit she wasn't hearing none of it lol.
 
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I guess you get to be the trailblazer next time? Or maybe you can walk home from Ford River. :rolleyes:

They widened their parking lot since then. You could park several heaps now. :haha:

If you need me to break trail let me know I'd be more than happy.

I do appreciate the ride, sixty miles from Ford river back to Marinette would be a hike... might take a couple days...

So if they widened the parking lot are they renting any of it out??

Heaps? not sure what your getting at.
 
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If you need me to break trail let me know I'd be more than happy.

I do appreciate the ride, sixty miles from Ford river back to Marinette would be a hike... might take a couple days...

So if they widened the parking lot are they renting any of it out??

Heaps? not sure what your getting at.


That little one-lane loop that we parked on is now an entire parking lot. It's big enough to fit a whole club full of dead vehicles. That whole "pushing the dead vehicle out of the way" episode wouldn't be needed now.

:wink1:
 
The 4.0 info has actually been cool. Piston skirt huh :thinking:. I'm about to tear my mom's Heep apart because it's knocking real slightly.
Tried convincing her a 4.8 or 5.3 would maybe fit, bit she wasn't hearing none of it lol.

It started right after I bought it..Got worse as I drove it.. then after cruzing around the U.P. it got real bad over heated and kind of stopped running. The good Parishioners of the Ford River Community Chapple helped push it to a parking spot in their lot while I got a ride back to my truck and trailer from Ethan.. funny thing once it cooled down it started right up like nothing happened and drove onto the trailer..
It was a bit of a fiasco but it's all in the adventure.
 
If you need me to break trail let me know I'd be more than happy.

I do appreciate the ride, sixty miles from Ford river back to Marinette would be a hike... might take a couple days...

Naww. I'm just teasing.

And I would never leave someone stranded. But I will heckle you about it. I've been there several times, you know... ;)

:rotfl:
 
It started right after I bought it..Got worse as I drove it.. then after cruzing around the U.P. it got real bad over heated and kind of stopped running. The good Parishioners of the Ford River Community Chapple helped push it to a parking spot in their lot while I got a ride back to my truck and trailer from Ethan.. funny thing once it cooled down it started right up like nothing happened and drove onto the trailer..
It was a bit of a fiasco but it's all in the adventure.

Have you tried driving it again since then? How did you diagnose the rod/skirt issues?
 
The 4.0 info has actually been cool. Piston skirt huh :thinking:. I'm about to tear my mom's Heep apart because it's knocking real slightly.
Tried convincing her a 4.8 or 5.3 would maybe fit, bit she wasn't hearing none of it lol.

Inlines For The Win!!!

Why would you downgrade to a V8? :rolleyes:
 
It was a bit of a fiasco but it's all in the adventure.

Exactly. It's all in the adventure.

Remember that hill climb at Power Dam Falls? The one we declined because I didn't want to be breaking rigs at the very beginning of the trip? In hindsight that really didn't matter, as the rig still broke. But that's all part of the adventure!

Maybe we should try that one again sometime. :thinking:
 
My goal is to make it to one of those UP trips. It's one of the reasons I'm putting a bigger tank in my truck.
 
Remember every time I stopped I had to check the oil. Driving it 70 miles to and from work it would use 2 quarts of straight 50 weight oil. I did some digging around and I guess the (1999-2001 I think) engine's had an issue with the piston skirts breaking. The pistons would start to rock in the bore get bad enough to break the skirt and "knock" , it got less noticeable once it got up to operating temp.
I need to pull the engine and rebuild it/swap it out for a running engine.
 
My goal is to make it to one of those UP trips. It's one of the reasons I'm putting a bigger tank in my truck.

Pick a weekend. We head up there as often as we can get away with it. Right now the state has closed all public land to camping, or we would have headed out last weekend. But we'll be out there as soon as I find a way to make it legal.
 
Remember every time I stopped I had to check the oil. Driving it 70 miles to and from work it would use 2 quarts of straight 50 weight oil. I did some digging around and I guess the (1999-2001 I think) engine's had an issue with the piston skirts breaking. The pistons would start to rock in the bore get bad enough to break the skirt and "knock" , it got less noticeable once it got up to operating temp.
I need to pull the engine and rebuild it/swap it out for a running engine.

I remember that. My questions was whether the Jeep stayed "normal" after you dragged it home. Was it just an overheating problem? But then why was the knock getting worse?
 
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