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The Purple Camaro
- Thread starter Bent77
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Journey sucks, and most of your problems could be solved with a pro-charger. 
WOOPOW!
425 goes high 11s here. That’s what we were running with the iron head/intake engines in this car
Of course we had 5100 stall and 5.13 gears. There wasn’t much left on the wick so to speak
The better it is NA the better it is with boost...
and bbc FTW
If money was no option, 427…
Money no limit, prolly a SMX 540...but I am perfectly happy starting with a healthy old school NA small block too. 
Nitrous is the least expensive way to go fast. Its like a bigger engine with the flip of a switch. Instant power and torque.
The turbos and superchargers don't need a bottle to refill, but they also cost a lot more up front. You can make a LOT of passes before it would ever cost as much.
The turbos and superchargers don't need a bottle to refill, but they also cost a lot more up front. You can make a LOT of passes before it would ever cost as much.
I didn't either, when I was 16 I told myself nitrous sucks because I don't want to fill up the bottle to go fast.
Then I wanted to go faster and couldn't afford turbos or superchargers at the time.
So I sprayed the engine I already had and went from an average of 11.90s to 10.40s with a small 150 shot on pump gas.
Then I kind of became hooked on it. Its there when you need it, and not when you don't.
I only use it at the track.
Although I do want both a supercharger and a twin turbo someday. (two different vehicles).
When I wanted the regal go faster I built a bigger engine, and looked into turbos or supercharger. Was going to be uber expensive.
So I developed my own nitrous system with the distribution as good as a fogger system, but with the lower cost and simple installation and plumbing of a plate system, yet it doesn't take hood clearance like a plate, because I didn't have any. Been using it that way ever since.
Then I wanted to go faster and couldn't afford turbos or superchargers at the time.
So I sprayed the engine I already had and went from an average of 11.90s to 10.40s with a small 150 shot on pump gas.
Then I kind of became hooked on it. Its there when you need it, and not when you don't.
I only use it at the track.
Although I do want both a supercharger and a twin turbo someday. (two different vehicles).
When I wanted the regal go faster I built a bigger engine, and looked into turbos or supercharger. Was going to be uber expensive.
So I developed my own nitrous system with the distribution as good as a fogger system, but with the lower cost and simple installation and plumbing of a plate system, yet it doesn't take hood clearance like a plate, because I didn't have any. Been using it that way ever since.
I never cared for nitrous, and no offense intended but it always felt like a cheat. There are plenty of people that use it and get it right, but there are as many or more that blow there shit up in a heartbeat with Nitrous. I realize any power adder has the ability to blow your shit up with poor tuning etc, but I feel like Nitrous is the worst option.
A lot of people believe that because of the old days and people not knowing what they are doing.(I suppose that still happens sometimes) They used to say tune it fat to be safe. We've learned with nitrous that isn't necessarily good. Its better to tune it closer to what the engine likes NA, but with lower timing than originally thought.
A reasonable amount of nitrous is very reliable and fast. And just like boost, you have to have your ring gap correct, fueling and fuel pressure correct, bottom end strong enough, timing correct, etc.
If you do that it works quite well and is safe. Nitrous is so easy to install some people put 300 HP on a stock engine with stock fuel pump and then wonder why the cast piston melted and it gets a bad rap.
Although I don't know how it is "cheating". I don't understand that one, is any power adder cheating then?
I suppose it is easier to hide than a turbo or supercharger, so the people that do cheat, it's easier for them to cheat with. But using it when the rules allow surely isn't cheating. I surely don't cheat, nor do I promote cheating.
To be honest that's how I feel about street racing. It's dangerous and to easy to cheat. I say keep racing at the track where it's safer and more fair.
Now when you start making big power, like a couple thousand HP or so. There are people making around 3500 HP or more with nitrous pro mod engines. Then I think nitrous becomes more maintenance and the boost is a little easier on parts because the burn rate isn't as fast as nitrous so you get a longer push on the piston instead of a huge fast bang on the piston. Which in moderate amounts doesn't matter, but it does when you are pushing the limits of everything. Of course its still easy to burn a piston with boost.
Rene, didn't you just say it was awesome when Cleetus was using nitrous and turbos? Cheating?
My brother has installed nitrous on his procharged BBC over a year ago, not back running quite yet. We figure a small 75 shot or so will greatly cool the boosted air and pickup more than the small amount of nitrous alone.
A reasonable amount of nitrous is very reliable and fast. And just like boost, you have to have your ring gap correct, fueling and fuel pressure correct, bottom end strong enough, timing correct, etc.
If you do that it works quite well and is safe. Nitrous is so easy to install some people put 300 HP on a stock engine with stock fuel pump and then wonder why the cast piston melted and it gets a bad rap.
Although I don't know how it is "cheating". I don't understand that one, is any power adder cheating then?
I suppose it is easier to hide than a turbo or supercharger, so the people that do cheat, it's easier for them to cheat with. But using it when the rules allow surely isn't cheating. I surely don't cheat, nor do I promote cheating.
To be honest that's how I feel about street racing. It's dangerous and to easy to cheat. I say keep racing at the track where it's safer and more fair.
Now when you start making big power, like a couple thousand HP or so. There are people making around 3500 HP or more with nitrous pro mod engines. Then I think nitrous becomes more maintenance and the boost is a little easier on parts because the burn rate isn't as fast as nitrous so you get a longer push on the piston instead of a huge fast bang on the piston. Which in moderate amounts doesn't matter, but it does when you are pushing the limits of everything. Of course its still easy to burn a piston with boost.
Rene, didn't you just say it was awesome when Cleetus was using nitrous and turbos? Cheating?
My brother has installed nitrous on his procharged BBC over a year ago, not back running quite yet. We figure a small 75 shot or so will greatly cool the boosted air and pickup more than the small amount of nitrous alone.
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I would bet if you used it once, you would like it. It's amazing what it does. Takes a mild mannered street car and makes it launch something fierce.
The instant torque hit is the closest thing to an ev I’ve ever experienced. Nitrous is addicting. I’ve debated putting in on my Durango when I do the long tubes and cam just for some fun. Those hellcats wouldn’t know what hit ‘em.
I’ve had 17 years of not racing to thing about it. I’m good with it just a street car
Slower than 11.50 keeps me out of the next tier of rules and more $$
Faster would be a 10:1 427, roller aluminum headed, injected. Clutch
Probably be more than 11.50…
Slower than 11.50 keeps me out of the next tier of rules and more $$
Faster would be a 10:1 427, roller aluminum headed, injected. Clutch
Probably be more than 11.50…
That's true, there is no lag, no building boost, no ramp up, no cool spooling or whining sound, it's just instantly there.
You have a valid point too Bent, I could only use it once per trip because using it immediately required a cage and a bunch of other safety equipment I didn't have at the time. I had the SFI flexplate, driveshaft loop, etc for a slow race car, but not a cage or harnesses, etc. So I would wait until the last pass of the day and then spray it, and then they would tell me I can't make any more passes. Only one time I got away with two passes before they caught it.
