Sending you the bill if the 3 inches of rear travel break my back..
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Three Day 3link
- Thread starter sreidmx
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Suspension seats.
They lack any sort of that... Needs some beards or PRP.. its really really bad.
Couch cushion for the win..
I have to be missing something... but I can't figure out what it is. So maybe you can tell me. Looking at your guy's kit I was just curious on pricing compared to others so I priced out what would be the same kit on ruff stuff and I get this.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/BASK.html
$724.75 total for radius arm kit(brackets, dom tube, and joints), pan hard kit(brackets, dom tube, and joints), and shock towers.
On your guys website from what i can gather you get the same "kit" for $1780
Top (Everything you need, bring your own shocks)
$1780 (Brackets, Joints etc, Tubing for links and Steering)
Thats a big price gap for what appears to be the same thing. So I have to be missing something and just looking for what it is?
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/BASK.html
$724.75 total for radius arm kit(brackets, dom tube, and joints), pan hard kit(brackets, dom tube, and joints), and shock towers.
On your guys website from what i can gather you get the same "kit" for $1780
Top (Everything you need, bring your own shocks)
$1780 (Brackets, Joints etc, Tubing for links and Steering)
Thats a big price gap for what appears to be the same thing. So I have to be missing something and just looking for what it is?
bergerking
1/2 ton status
I purchased their kit and I haven't installed it yet but I have no regrets on the price. the 3 link kit from ruff stuff dose not include the tubing if you read the bottom of the page were it tells you whats included you would know that. 2 in 250 is not cheap and you buy it by the foot.. if you look how cheap a universal kit is compared to their kit built for your truck you would understand. im not saying the ruffstuff kit is not good but its not the same thing....also not included on that kit is the steering pitman arm i didnt see crossover steering limit straps. all that shit cost money add it up... and think about it. if you have a problem with the price contact them and discuss it instead of publicity posting shit like a dick
well this is why I am asking on a thread that the someone involved with the company has started so that I could ask the question as to why the difference? Whats missing? So just because someone questions something they are being a dick?
regardless I'm still looking for clarification. there is a $1056 difference in price between what I posted above. I understand the ruff stuff kit is just a universal kit and fortify's is a k10 specific kit. I can't find enough info on their website however to show what the difference is. The ruff stuff kit i linked does come with dom. and you added that fortify's kit comes with a pitman arm and limit straps where as ruff stuffs does not. Is that all? so take out $100 for those items, its still a $956 difference. So I'm assuming their has to be more? maybe the website isn't complete and or doesn't have all the info on the kit posted. idk thats why I'm asking?
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bergerking
1/2 ton status
I have their kit so send me a link that works instead of a empty basket link and I'll tell you everything different between them...
link still working for me but regardless i'll post separate links to the items I had in the cart for comparison,
cnc cut and bent shock towers.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/STOWER12.html
radius/long arm kit with dom included
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1841.html
pan hard kit with dom included
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/PANKIT.html
and as already stated doesn't come with pitman arm or limit straps. Also I did not price out shock tabs on ruffstuff, but I'm unaware if the other kit comes with them either so I'll wait to hear on those.
cnc cut and bent shock towers.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/STOWER12.html
radius/long arm kit with dom included
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/R1841.html
pan hard kit with dom included
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/PANKIT.html
and as already stated doesn't come with pitman arm or limit straps. Also I did not price out shock tabs on ruffstuff, but I'm unaware if the other kit comes with them either so I'll wait to hear on those.
bergerking
1/2 ton status
weres the crossover streering and the brace between the towers.... my arms are longer as well plus it's not full of holes and makes for Jeep xj
bergerking
1/2 ton status
once I get them welded together you take a look at the brackets and towers then you will see the difference...
@Mr.Clean I'll start with a disclaimer, that I'm not bashing on RuffStuff at all, they make fantastic products.
That being said, this whole thing started when I bought those exact kits you posted, plus the steering kit, pitman arms, and so on. I spent weeks trying to figure out how to squeeze the trackbar and link mounts on the passenger side of my Dana 44. I ordered Ballistic fabrication brackets, hoping that would work better, but they never arrived. Even if they had the trackbar brackets from RuffStuff wouldn't have cleared the steering drag link, due to having to roll the bracket forward to fit it onto the axle. I probably wasted months of fabrication time trying to make these universal brackets work for my application.
What we offer is not what RuffStuff offers. They offer generic kits, that are mostly geared towards the Jeep chassis. Ours are application built for the square body Chevy, with brackets that will fit into the axle in a clean package. What the difference is is that we have spent many, many hours making sure that what we offer will fit on these trucks with little to no fuss. You won't have to spend hours trying to squeeze it all in. They're also low profile, kept tight to the axle, to maximize available uptravel.
Also, some of it is aesthetics. We've tried to keep things clean looking. The whole bracket is integrated in, fits tightly between the knuckle and leaf perch on the passenger side, making it look like it belongs there. We've combined mounting between the shock tower and trackbar mounting, once again to make it look integrated, not like you bought a bag of generic, universal brackets, and welded them on to your frame.
Our towers are also designed to avoid needing to put U-joints in your steering, which is a $260 bill if you buy all new.
What we offer is our hours worth of work that we've put in to making these specific trucks to make these trucks do some really amazing stuff. I can't even quantify the amount of time I've personally put in to this project. If you're willing to spend those hours to make random pieces work together, and save some money, then that's fine. If you want something that can be welded together, slapped on the truck, and have a complete coilover system in a few weekends of work, that is what we offer.
Each of our kits is custom ordered. We'll have a phone or email conversation with you to verify what your truck is, which axle you have, what diameter your axle tube is. When you tell us which shock you want to run, we can recommend a shock tower height that will maximize uptravel. We'll customize the towers to the height that you need for your shock.
It's up to the customer to decide what the value of their time and energy is. To some people, they'd rather spend a lot of time making their own stuff, I'm one of those people myself honestly. I love the designing and fabrication process. Other people would rather spend some extra money to save the time and energy, so they can go out and have fun driving their trucks.
That being said, this whole thing started when I bought those exact kits you posted, plus the steering kit, pitman arms, and so on. I spent weeks trying to figure out how to squeeze the trackbar and link mounts on the passenger side of my Dana 44. I ordered Ballistic fabrication brackets, hoping that would work better, but they never arrived. Even if they had the trackbar brackets from RuffStuff wouldn't have cleared the steering drag link, due to having to roll the bracket forward to fit it onto the axle. I probably wasted months of fabrication time trying to make these universal brackets work for my application.
What we offer is not what RuffStuff offers. They offer generic kits, that are mostly geared towards the Jeep chassis. Ours are application built for the square body Chevy, with brackets that will fit into the axle in a clean package. What the difference is is that we have spent many, many hours making sure that what we offer will fit on these trucks with little to no fuss. You won't have to spend hours trying to squeeze it all in. They're also low profile, kept tight to the axle, to maximize available uptravel.
Also, some of it is aesthetics. We've tried to keep things clean looking. The whole bracket is integrated in, fits tightly between the knuckle and leaf perch on the passenger side, making it look like it belongs there. We've combined mounting between the shock tower and trackbar mounting, once again to make it look integrated, not like you bought a bag of generic, universal brackets, and welded them on to your frame.
Our towers are also designed to avoid needing to put U-joints in your steering, which is a $260 bill if you buy all new.
What we offer is our hours worth of work that we've put in to making these specific trucks to make these trucks do some really amazing stuff. I can't even quantify the amount of time I've personally put in to this project. If you're willing to spend those hours to make random pieces work together, and save some money, then that's fine. If you want something that can be welded together, slapped on the truck, and have a complete coilover system in a few weekends of work, that is what we offer.
Each of our kits is custom ordered. We'll have a phone or email conversation with you to verify what your truck is, which axle you have, what diameter your axle tube is. When you tell us which shock you want to run, we can recommend a shock tower height that will maximize uptravel. We'll customize the towers to the height that you need for your shock.
It's up to the customer to decide what the value of their time and energy is. To some people, they'd rather spend a lot of time making their own stuff, I'm one of those people myself honestly. I love the designing and fabrication process. Other people would rather spend some extra money to save the time and energy, so they can go out and have fun driving their trucks.
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To add to what Scott is saying, it is also flight tested which adds hp.
Come on shcooba Steve I wanna see the video!!!! 
bergerking
1/2 ton status
yeah.... prove its not cgiCome on shcooba Steve I wanna see the video!!!!
I am actually not sure how to upload an mov. I get errors every time I try..
Yeah it's probably animatronics!!!
Matchbox and fishing line
The video is on Fortify Off-Road's Instagram, if you happen to use that...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHgtUBJBMtd/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BHgtUBJBMtd/
Thank you for the informative response. This is what I was looking for. I know what I posted for comparison is just a universal kit not vehicle specific to anything. So I understand that there is going to be time spent still planning and fabricating to make it work for your application, but it was just a generic comparison.
Based on the responses I have gotten on this it also sounds like your kit has more to offer then what the website leads on. After looking at the website and the Instagram account it was still unclear to me what your getting in your guy's kit (hence why I asked in this thread).
I know its early on for you guys and maybe its something already in the works, but I'm curious if your working on upgrading the website more? I can only speak for myself but I agree with you that something that is design vehicle specific to fit right on and weld with very little fabrication can be worth some more money than a universal diy kit. I want to know why I am spending the money. When I look at the website and it just says brackets $800. I go what brackets? What do they look like? what are they made out of?
I'm not writing any of this to be a dick. I'm writing this because I've seen the posts promoting it so I wanted to check it out the other day and after looking on the website all I could tell is your getting stuff to build a radius arm kit for your truck, and I'm still not 100% what a full "kit" entails but the reason of the post is just to maybe try to get some more info published out there. More pictures, more description, a little bit more could go a long way I think. I know the kind of shopper I am when I'm looking at something online and there isn't enough detail or it leaves me questioning I just move on to somebody else that offers the same thing and if their website is more informative and leaves me knowing exactly what I'm getting I'm gonna go with that.
But thats just my .02. It's worth nothing but I felt like sharing with you guys anyways.
Good luck on all your endeavors. Wish you guys the best.
