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Tire size?...How much is too much?

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4.88 is perfect gearing for 36s and a 700R4. You couldn't ask for any better than that.

You should consider changing that to, "when the 350 blows it's turning into a 454, when the tranny goes it's turning into a TH 400, and when the 10 bolt grenades it's being replaced with a 4.88 geared Dana 60 because I already whine that I have too much gear."

There is no such thing as too much gear with overdrive.

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Not with corporate axles that are limited to 5.13 anyway.
 
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I have 4 " lift and 39.5's with inner and outer fenders. And as far as gears, the lower the better. I have 350 tbi, 700r and 241 with 5.86's /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif And this winter will be installing the doubler.
 
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Looks to me in your profile you've got 5" of lift in front with the axle moved forward and about the same in the rear. Picture shows some serious trimming too, which is exptected.

Where do you live in Illinois? You'll have to come up with that rig sometime. That thing is awesome.
 
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Just meant that if the desire is there it can be done. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif I'm near Kankakee
 
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I'm sure it's possible, but rubbing is gonna happen. The floor of the cab isn't far away.
 
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It's too thick and requires a lot of wheel speed to clean out.

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I'm not going to sit here and tell you it is not possible becasue there are several guys in this town that run 1/2 ton's on 44's. Here's the proof:
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I am not sure the extent of his damage but he mainly ran mud, but mostly every time he would snap a U-Joint in his driveshaft. If the mud you are running in is think and requires a lot of spinning to rid the mud from the tires means that there will be even more unsprung wieght on your axles; besides that fact that each tire and wheel will wiegh over 120lbs.
 
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So is there anyone out there running big tires and a 4" lift? Or am I crazy for thinking it /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Fenders can always be cut, your problem is going to be the floorboards for the cab. If you move the axle forward then your problem will be the core support. I have the 42s with about 7" of lift and the axle moved 1.5" forward, looks like they won't hit the cab *much*, but they're probably going to nail the core support when the suspension compresses and the wheels are turned.
 
there is a couple of guys in town here that run 44's boggers on furd broncos with 1/2 ton axles. fenders cut, headers coming out of the hood.They run the piss out of them and hardly ever break anything.....go figure
 
Eventually (in the spring) I'll have full one ton axles. The reason I'm going to change to 5.13's all around is because my 14 bolt gears weren't installed correctly and they're chewed up pretty good. 5.13's would be a better gear for a 42" tire. Also I'm getting a 6" lift in the spring, possibly just adding a body lift, who knows... Anyways, this is just a temporary thing because my tires are bald and this is prime wheeling time. /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif I can still get fords stuck with my swampers though, then pull them out and drive through their ruts backwards in 2wd with my bald swampers... go figure /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif
 
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That truck is obviously not a trail machine. Look how clean it is and the fenders aren't cut and it doesn't appear that the front fenders are caved in too far from tires hitting them.

Granted flex isn't the most important thing in the mud, but it's painfully obvious that particular truck has never even bounced hard enough for those big swampers to hit the fenders.
 
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That truck is obviously not a trail machine. Look how clean it is and the fenders aren't cut and it doesn't appear that the front fenders are caved in too far from tires hitting them.

Granted flex isn't the most important thing in the mud, but it's painfully obvious that particular truck has never even bounced hard enough for those big swampers to hit the fenders.

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You're right, its no trail machine but he runs mud bogs and his fenders are a little beat in on the inner lip. Besides the spings he runs on that thing are so stiff, he might have welded I-beam from the frame to the axle /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif By the way, the truck has at 15" of lift /forums/images/graemlins/eek.gif

But you gotta love the fact that he still runs the sway bar and has ext. bump stops (if you look closely)
 
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Looks just like my friend Josh's truck, only his was green and had Ground Hawgs on it. Josh ran 10 bolt/12 bolt combo then switched to a D44/14 bolt full floater and never broke anything because he couldn't keep a front driveshaft in it. Did pretty well in the mud bogs though. You guys wouldn't believe it if you saw his caster angle. He had that housing turned upwards so much I couldn't believe it. 12" superlift front springs with the steering arm and block plus a homeade pinion arm (not going there) and a homemade shackle flip made from a 2wd spring hanger. Eventually he built a driveshaft that'd stay in it, but with that kind of angle and a 4 speed, it's just a hopeless idea to keep a front shaft in a truck like that unless you have one of Jesse's wild man shafts.

I wish I had the pictures. After he swapped an '80s body onto it and painted it up all pretty, it was the ultimate poser rig. He beat the crap out of it, then traded it to a guy for a beautiful '55 Chevy pickup with a built 327 in it. I don't know what the guy with the '55 was thinking, but oh well....
 
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pic of my old 76 with 4" lift, 3/4 ton axels and 40 mudders. Ran it this way for 2 years. Only problem was under full front compression, the tires would hit the firewall. Which is why the front fenders didn't line up. I broke the drivers side body mount the last time it hit.
 
I don't have a lot of flex up front with my rough country springs and don't need a lot of it for mud bogs. I'm buying a body lift and a set of zero rates to lift it up a little more. Would you guys do a 2" or 3" body lift? Also I've found a Dana 60 from a military pickup with a 6.2 in it. I'm not sure how much the junk yard wants for it yet or what gears are in it... How much would you guys expect to pay for the axle or even the whole truck?
 
You need all the lift you can get. Go with the 3" body and the zero rates and hack the fenders all the way back to the cab. You're still going to rub.

That green Blazer has 8 and 3 with springs all around, he flexed it out pretty good yesterday on a tree and stuffed the tires to the point that I couldn't get my finger in between the fender and tire. So, it lookes to me like it takes about 11" of lift to stuff a 44" Bogger and flex it out.
 
I read every article on here that came up in my searches and came up with the answer that a 6" lift will clear 42's with fender cutting and a few other mods. I think I'll go with a 3" body lift and maybe zero-rates if I rub too badly.

As for my other question, what can I expect to pay for a Dana 60 out of a military truck in a junk yard? I'm assuming they don't know what it is and I don't plan on telling them how much I know it's worth. /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif
 
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As for my other question, what can I expect to pay for a Dana 60 out of a military truck in a junk yard? I'm assuming they don't know what it is and I don't plan on telling them how much I know it's worth. /forums/images/graemlins/ears.gif

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You will never find a military truck in the junkyard and if you did, they already know what it's worth. Nice try, but dream on. Expect to pay $800-1200 for a good D60.
 
I did find a military truck in a junk yard though... I'm going to check it out today or tomorrow. It's got a blown 6.2 in it and hopefully nobody's snagged the axles. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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my friend ran 38.5" boggers on 4" lift and minor fender hacks with only a tad at full flex and that truck flexed mad. So it all depends, he was running a 6.2, with upgraded drivetrain and never broke a thing and wheeled the piss outta it /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif

Jordan
 
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