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twin stick? tripple stick?

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Ok, realistically, i get that the reason for this mod is for the greatest possible control over your drivetrain. but what im wondering is, exactly how usefull is this? The only two things ive seen that you can really do is...

1. drop the transfer case into 2WD low, for decending hills with better steering and using engine braking. (which i can do simply buy unlocking my hubs in the front.)

2. Put the truck in FWD in order to set the parking brake and pull the truck around in a super tight radius turn using just the front tires.

For the wheeling ive done, i cant say ive ever been in a situation where i really needed that, but then again i dont do alot of rock crawling. am i missing something here?
 
I believe the majority of the reason for it is to be cool and have another shifter :P


No honestly the real reason is for front digs. Its a technical trick that alot of guys (Mostly crawlers) use to try and bump over stuff from what I've seen.

I really dont see the point to it but I guess if youve only got front traction and you engage fwd then you'll put twice the power down in front.

It does also offer a nice "limp" feature of being able to drive fwd without removing a wrecked rear shaft.
 
I went with twin stick in mine for the same reasons plus since I have stock axles I am afraid that a front only turn might break stuff too easily. I have seen the usefullness of a front dig type turn but never needed it myself.

I figure if I find I need it I can always do the triple stick conversion later.
 
ok, just so im not crazy. the only reason i could see logically having a twin stick would be for an NP205/203 setup. tripple sticking that would just be bothersome to me. my attention span only goes so far, id wind up pulling the wrong stick... which we all know can be quite embarrasing.
 
It would be nice to have a twin stick setup (letting you individually select either rear or front wheel drive) simply to have a 2 low option. The trails we typically run are all wooded and there are lots of twisty sections that it would be nice to have the better turning ability of 2wd but low range is also nice because of being technical and tight, but you don't need the traction of 2wd. We have many people in our club that have twin stick setups and use them all of the time.

You have to at least have "twin" sticks for a doubler and there is no easy way to control the range box plus the regular t-case (2wd, 4wd, hi and lo) with just a single shifter.

I have seen many people with twinsticks forget what position they have them in, and seen a few get stuck and/or in a bad position because they forgot to engage 4wd.

For me personally, I think it would be nice to have that capability but it's not high on my list either.
 
If you are going doubler you need a triple stick to do all that cool stuff.

One stick engages the front axle, one the rear (both of these have hi and low positions) and the other one is for the range box.


I have used mine a ton. Got a front locker 2wd double low until I need 4 wd then pop in the front axle, can usually get it in without stopping. After I am done with the obstacle back into 2wd (again without stopping)

I have only used the front dig once or twice, worked very well. I have used front wheel drive only to get to the trail. On really icy roads I will put it in front wheel drive only in hi range. It has a front locker but I am usually being so gentle it doesn't matter.

I have used a combination of trees rocks and front only or rear only drive to walk myself around something that was very tight. I would set myself on a rock and spin the front or rear to get them to move more than I could get them to move with just steering input.

I use it a ton. Mostly just going in and out of 4wd. Having the option of just rear wheel drive in either low range is very nice and very useful for me. Some may not use it alot but it was also my favorite thing about my converted 203.

Its far more than looking cool its a very useful tool to make wheeling more enjoyable
 
It also helps with the shifting...supposed to be a solid engagement, without hangups or binding like the stock rails have problems with.
 
because its awesome smoking a jeep in 4x4 in the mud pit when youre in front wheel drive.
 
I know some people buy the twin's to replace junk factory shifters, especially on the 203's. I like the look of my factory shifter is the only reason I still have mine
 
If you have a longer wheel base the front dig is sweet. I'm at 120" and have only had My doubler in since may. Been on 2 major outings. Smorr in Missouri and the black hills in south Dakota. Used it both places to keep from bashing My truck in in a few tight spots. If you're short and don't do rocks or tight tees then you probably will never need it. But I would do it while you're there and never look back.
 
so general consensus would be, the likelyhood of using it, unless you boulder with your truck, is very slim. but the principle is like a gun or a condom, better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
 
Yeah not much for rocks up here, but it sure would be useful on the tight turns in the trees.
 
K5dreamer said:
so general consensus would be, the likelyhood of using it, unless you boulder with your truck, is very slim. but the principle is like a gun or a condom, better to have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.
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Well actually my next blazer I build and my crew cab will both be twin sticked.

The blazer will be a trail rider but I want all the strongest and simplest parts, so probably a 4500 and a 205. Eventually locked front and rear etc etc etc. On a trail ride rig, having the option of 2 low is a great thing, if you leave your front open its not needed at all. I will eventually have a front locker.

On the crew cab hmmmmm yah on the crew its just cause it looks cool.:D
 
I use front dig alot or even just kick the rear out if your lockered allows for alot sharper turn without dig. Single low while traveling down the 2 track is nice. If your doing a doubler why wouldn't you triple stick it? If your worried about being embarrassed by grabbing the wrong stick maybe you need to get a little more seat time in your rig. I have 6 levers between my seats, none are labeled, and I can quickly grab any one of them and do what I need it to. If your gonna do it for "looks" you might as well throw some rocks at your sheet metal so it "looks" wheeled too.
 
I just finished my twin stick 203 a couple days ago. I wish i would have done it a long time ago. Nice positive shift engagement, no popping out of gear. And it looks cool :P
 
MTBLAZER89 said:
Yeah not much for rocks up here, but it sure would be useful on the tight turns in the trees.
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x1000

Mine was worth it just for tight trails in the woods. When your turning on a tight trail and your about to clip your front corner, instead of backing up trying again, just stick in front wheel drive and slam the gas. Its crazy how well it pulls it self over. Ha although my front fenders are dented from a few times the wheels got traction. Its one of the best mods.
 
WOW...


If you have to ask, you probably don't need it...

None of you have been on "The Busy" obviously...

Being twin sticked has saved us from sleeping in our rigs over night in the snow...

Triple sticked will help keep you from landing on your lid at the Rocks...

Up here, it's almost required... Tight treed trails, then deep mud, then crazy rock climbs...

Then again, you really don't need it if you wheel forest service roads...

I wouldn't do it to a rig that I DD... No point...

I guess what I'm trying to say is, most people really don't need it... Just the wheelers...:D
 
blazinzuk said:
So transmission shifter, triple stick doubler and 2 ox lockers? Thats the only way I can come up with 6
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Modified B&M Pro Stick,Triple stick, Cutting brakes, and even a ball valve for the rear brakes.
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