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Unemployed and Homeless in Phoenix???

I'm in the same job boat i have a part time job, recent graduate in electronics engineering technology, and i have a hard time getting a response from people let alone making it to interviews!!!
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Anthony...did you graduate allready??!!! Doesn't seem all that long ago i visited you at ASU...

Still workin for cox cable?

Doug Wright
 
You might talk with marv springer and or damon flippo as they work for larger companies who might employee in your field...as far as your wife working someday...up north off of I-17 is a card member center for Discover card...my wife worked for them for over 12 years...

I miss all my friends in phx...and gettin away into the hills to prospect...explore..and wheel...but not the overcrowded congestion it has grown to be. If you can stay in doors and plot your next mod and where you want to go during the summer...the other 8 months is cake...with nice weather...just stay above northern ave and away from the streets closer to I17....yuk zone...

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Phx a great area? hahahahahahahaha

Sorry but I was in Phx last summer and its a pure craphole. It's worse than LA. Then you gotta deal with the 115* weather, no thanks...




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Phoenix sucks! The place is freakin' huge and takes days to get from one part of town to another.

Arizona has some benefits and there are jobs in Phoenix but this state lacks much to be desired, especially if you're raising a family. Education absolutely sucks here, it's consistently bottom of the pile.

Phoenix may be cheap compared to LA, but it's not that cheap! If I lived in Phoenix I offer you a place to stay for a weekend while you looked around for work and got a lay of the land. If you like you can email me with any specific questions. [email protected]
 
Your attitude is awsome, I feel the same way about living to work, I dont understand why people will work 2 jobs so they can have the 'material' life, just get a decent home keep it clean and up keep it and live with in your means. I would rather live in a 2 bedroom home than kill my self for a larger one when it comes to being happy.

There are jobs, I know people who are hiring telecommunications sales reps if that helps /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Also there are plenty of low start up cleaning buisiness, my friend was bankrupt and little money and started his own cleaning company through a franchise, they 100% start you up, and its affordable /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif
 
that's funny,my high school had one of the highest ranked attendence record's in the country as well as it's test scores being way up. I live in the suburbs in Gilbert, I love it, as for traffic the free ways are much different now compared to 3 years ago.


Gilbert is a great town, every thing is less than 10 yaers old for the most part and the marrage rate is 7/10 homes, the school systems are well funded because the area is not fully built up. Don't you notice when you go to Ca. that they are using 30 year old buses still, not in AZ! /forums/images/graemlins/rotfl.gif

Have you drivin in LA latley? Also they are using this new rubberized asfault that absorbes sound, you can barley hear the noise from the tires if any on the us 60
 
I really feel some serious Phoenix bashing here, but her is my current read:

I moved here from PHX about 3 years ago, was living in Atlanta, GA. Company wanted me to relocate with a promotion to PHX. After living on the east coast for the last 15 years, I said what the hell. Now keep in mind I have a two kids and a wife and lots of family on the east coast. I agreed to relocate for the company I worked for.

I have now been in PHX for 3 years, and left the company that moved me out here, you could not drag me out of PHX kicking and screaming. The heat for 3 months of the year is absolutely brutal, and it does take some getting use to, but he other 9 months of the year its awesome.

I live in the Gilbert area about 5 miles from Mesa where Marv lives, and it's awesome. Housing is reasonable and the cost of living is not bad at all.

If you like to wheel, this is the place for it. I live for the wheeling the other 8 months of the year. We spend between 2 to 3 weekends a month on the trails and camping.

Phx is not bad in my opinion at all. It's all about what you are use to, every area has bad areas, no question about it. The Gilber area is growing and the communities are awesome.

If you are seriously thinking about relocating to Phx, and want to come out and check it out for a weekend, Our family would be more than happy to put you up for the weekend and show you around some, but don't forget, I'm totally into Phx, so my opinion about Phx is one sided.

If you are serious about coming out, drop me a PM and we can talk.

Good luck!!!
 
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I am changing my bid to 'Now Willing to Club Baby Jeeps' to get into Arizona. It may not make any sense, but I really like the sound of it. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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do you have any equity in your house, if so, sell it and use the money to try a new start in arizona, provided your family is agreeable to moving /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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No Equity to speak of. Just bought it less than a year ago, and with the downturn in the economy I would probably be lucky to sell it and make enough to pay a realtor. There are actually 3 other houses on my block that the bank has foreclosed on in the time I've lived here. It's a really nice neighborhood, 'real' people live here. 'Real' people are generally the first to get their throats cut when Corporate America starts feeling a little penny-pinched. Another reason I want out of Management... I'm too damned ethical. I've been told so by other Managers in my field! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Cheers,
Scott
 
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Piping Hot 'Smokey Joe's' donuts or Cinnabuns will make you turn your back on Heroin too. The ONLY good thing about traveling is that there is always a 'Cinnabun' in the airport... /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif ('Sinnabuns' is also what I would call my Girlfriend if the Wife would let me have one...)

When I can't sleep I get delirious and spend all night replying to BBS posts... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
 
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Your attitude is awsome, I feel the same way about living to work, I dont understand why people will work 2 jobs so they can have the 'material' life, just get a decent home keep it clean and up keep it and live with in your means. I would rather live in a 2 bedroom home than kill my self for a larger one when it comes to being happy.

There are jobs, I know people who are hiring telecommunications sales reps if that helps /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Also there are plenty of low start up cleaning buisiness, my friend was bankrupt and little money and started his own cleaning company through a franchise, they 100% start you up, and its affordable /forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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Yeah, I kinda learned my lesson on the whole 'materialism' thing... Don't get me wrong... Having expensive stuff is very cool... I'm an electronics junkie on top of an impulse car/truck buyer... Anyways, when it was just the Wife and I it wasn't so bad to work consistent 70 hour weeks, but then it turned into 80 and 90, and she finally told me she didn't marry me to see me for 2 hours on Sunday Afternoons... I backed off on the travel but still was heavy into the career... And then Kids Came!!!

After my Son was born, my entire outlook on life changed. I don't care about anything at all anymore except the time I get to spend with him, and now I have a Baby Girl on the way so there will be NO more 90 hour workweeks for any amount of money. Kids are only Kids for a very short time, and there will be plenty of hours available to work when I have an empty nest. I plan to enjoy the next 20 years or so with my Kids, then if I have the desire to work 90 hours per week maybe I'll do it again.

Being unemployed is a great lesson in human nature. 6 months ago I was making more money than most doctors in the area do, and people call you 'Sir' and do whatever you tell them to. The banks throw money at you and everyone wants to sell you a car or a big house. I have paid more money in taxes in the past 10 years than I expected to make in my entire life.

But miss ONE house payment, and you are the biggest dirtbag ever. The amount of disrespect is unbelievable. I'm not a deadbeat, I'm just unemployed... If you look at my work history it is obvious that I a never out of work for long, and logic should tell you that I will make more than enough money in the next 6 months to make two housepayments if I wanted to. But man, once you don't have that big income anymore, you're dirt.

I've had a lot of help from friends and family, and even the local community. Help I won't forget about, nor will I forget who turned their backs on me because I was late on one single payment...

End Rant/Babble. On to the next nonsensical reply...

Cheers,
Scott
 
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I really feel some serious Phoenix bashing here, but her is my current read:

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Bashing is OK... I want to get all the sides of the story... If nobody was bashing I would be suspicious that there was some sort of conspiracy. Of course, I'm always suspicious that there's a conspiracy. In fact, ther IS always a conspiracy, it's just that I can't always prove it.

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I moved here from PHX about 3 years ago, was living in Atlanta, GA. Company wanted me to relocate with a promotion to PHX. After living on the east coast for the last 15 years, I said what the hell. Now keep in mind I have a two kids and a wife and lots of family on the east coast. I agreed to relocate for the company I worked for.

I have now been in PHX for 3 years, and left the company that moved me out here, you could not drag me out of PHX kicking and screaming. The heat for 3 months of the year is absolutely brutal, and it does take some getting use to, but he other 9 months of the year its awesome.

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Company Loyalty will get you nothing anymore. Twice now I've been told, and I quote one actual Company Owner, "Man, you did a great job of getting this office up and running. Thanks for all your hard work. We can take it from here." Then I had the pleasure of watching them run it into the ground without me. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Anyways, I'll work hard for any company that rewards the effort. If they don't, I'll find another job. I see too many people stick with a crappy job just because they're afraid of change. Not me!

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I live in the Gilbert area about 5 miles from Mesa where Marv lives, and it's awesome. Housing is reasonable and the cost of living is not bad at all.

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Many of the jobs I see on the job boards are in Gilbert. Sounds like the 'new' area... Same with Indy and most cities. There is an area that is growing and healthy... The trick is to live about 20 minutes away from the jobs and commerce... Then in 10 years when the city swallows up your home, you sell for double what you paid and move another 20 minutes out. If I can wait out the downswing inthe local economy, that's what will happen here in the next 5 years. I bought right on the edge of development, and even in the past year it's already started to swallow up the small town I live in. Sad for the small towns, but innevitable. May as well take advantage of it and make a few bucks.

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If you like to wheel, this is the place for it. I live for the wheeling the other 8 months of the year. We spend between 2 to 3 weekends a month on the trails and camping.

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I've always been a GearHead... It was cars until I moved to WI... I was driving a 300hp Malibu and the Wife had a 300hp Camaro. After one winter of that, we bought 4x4's... Bought her a nice 4x4 S10 Blazer, and me a beater 4x4 S10 Blazer to put a V8 in. After I got a taste of that, I got into trailriding and 4x4 clubs and such. I still have a 300hp Camaro, but find that it's much more difficult to enjoy it legally than to enjoy a 4x4 legally. Plus 4x4ing is good fun for the whole family like you said. When my son was born I got out of it for a while because it wasn't as much fun to go and leave the Fam at home... Now he's old enough that he's showing interest and he and I could go for the day or weekend until the Wife and Baby Girl get old enough to go too. Time to start saving for lockers!!!

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Phx is not bad in my opinion at all. It's all about what you are use to, every area has bad areas, no question about it. The Gilber area is growing and the communities are awesome.

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Exactly... I lived near Detroilet and was able to work in the Motor City and commute to a 'Safe Haven' neighborhood where you didn't need bulletproof glass to save you from Detroit's stray bullets. I am sure the same can be done in Phoenix, only with much less brutal winters. I know there is a land where cars don't rust, but I have lived in the Midwest so long that I would have to see it to believe it. In MI and WI I saw cars as new as 3 years old already rusting...

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If you are seriously thinking about relocating to Phx, and want to come out and check it out for a weekend, Our family would be more than happy to put you up for the weekend and show you around some, but don't forget, I'm totally into Phx, so my opinion about Phx is one sided.

If you are serious about coming out, drop me a PM and we can talk.

Good luck!!!



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Every time I lose my faith in Humanity, somebody has to go and do something nice! I appreciate the offer, and will do my best to take you up on it. Right now funds are too tight for that kind of roadtrip, but if I can get a job nibble out that way and can get them to pay for a trip out I'll definitely look you up for a tour. Money seems to come and go like the clouds here, so who knows, maybe next week I'll have the cash to come visit??? I will keep you posted.

Cheers,
Scott
 
Damn!!! Now you are making me get out of this shitpile corporate managment job and move too. I really do hate my job. I can say that the cost of living is sooo cheap here, and people so nice, that it would be hard to leave.

John
 
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dunno. i been saying it forever. i'm sure i picked it up in some movie from my youth.


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UHF, "If nobody buys a car from me in the next hour I'm gonna club a baby seal, thats right folks, club a baby seal to make a better deal!"
 
My wife and I have been seriously tossing around the idea of moving to the Phoenix idea. Tucson sucks for the job market, and the price of housing is going through the roof, but the pay scale isn't. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif We are currently looking in the Peoria (Great schools) or Glendale area because the wife has a lot of family up there.

From what I've seen, they have a decent amount of jobs there, at least in my field (Computer networking). There is a lot to do in Phoenix including Pro sports, great wheeling close by and just about anything else you can imagine. The cost of housing seems reasonable also. We are currently getting the house ready to put on the market.

BTW, if any of you Phoenix doods know anyone looking for I.T. help, please let me know. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
Phoenix isn't all bad, it's not all rosy either. Just like everything, it has it's good and bad points. Same goes for the state. Over all, it's a very livable state, cheap compared to many other places and with abundant growth comes abundant opportunity.

Another possibility to consider would be Las Vegas. That place is growing by leaps and bounds. In many respects it's similar to Phoenix too. Some of the draw backs of Arizona aren't issues in Las Vegas. Did you consider Tucson?

Good luck whatever you decide.

In regards to education the state is in big trouble. The state was sending all of the education tax revenue to Maricopa county (Phoenix area) and not to the rest of the state. The handling of educational tax money is federally regulated and the funds are supposed to be distributed equally around the state. Arizona has been audited, fined and is now being restructured in regards to handling educational funds. Come to find out, they don't have enough money to build the schools, supply books and so on around the state.

School districts all around the state are filing suits against the state because the districts have received approval for various projects but haven't received funding b/c there isn't enough money. It's really a mess, it's just started but it's gonna be bad. Already in the school district down here there isn't enough money to purchase text books. What they do is supply the teachers with 1 text book, which they photocopy from and hand out assignments to the students.

What happens with poor education is that you have a lot of lower paying jobs. Even jobs that require skill and education are lower paying because of the over-all skill level. For example, this county has a 20% unemployment rate, but for those that are deemed "Employable" ie, skilled or educated, the unemployment rate is just over 2%.

What that means is that there are a lot of people who receive state health insurance, unemployment insurance, welfare and all of the other things that go hand in hand with poverty.

For secondary education, the state has cut back it's funding of the 3 major universities. Not just cut back, but major cuts. Tuition is expected to rise over 30% each year for the next few years. What that means is that the kids making $6.00 an hour won't be able to go to school anymore.

The community college extention campus down here is closing its doors because of the state cut backs. Their costs out of pocket have increased by 250% from the Spring to the Fall semester!

The cause of all of this is that the state set up tax bases to make living here attractive to retirees. People in their 60's and 70's don't usually like to pay high taxes to provide for education and family services and parks and such.

To me, that's the biggest downfall in the state. Tax base, education and the working poor. Some of those problems will be fixed, and some of the things that make Arizona attractive will change as a result. There are lots of places in the state that have virtually no crime, literally. Land is abundant, but it's dryin' up quickly.

Another issue that will become more serious in the coming years is water. Phoenix and Tucson are growing so quickly and there are so many golf courses and artificial lakes that the water sources are becoming drastically tired. The water rights for the Gila River, the Colorado River and the other various natural water sources are shared and fought over with Colorado, New Mexico and California and in some cases different cities and counties. In Santa Cruz County there is an enormous water table that is being fought over by Pima County (Tucson).

So, it's not all peachy keen. There are some serious issues that the state will be FORCED to deal with. In the past issues just get forgotten and pushed off 'til later because the retirees and snow birds who live here didn't want to deal with them.

I'm not bashing on the state, those are just the problems that it has. I'm a native Arizonan and have established roots down here. I like where I live, it's secluded, private and cheap. I dont' lock my doors at night, my cars aren't locked at hom and have never, ever had any problems at all. There are lots of trails to run, I live right next to the boundaries of the Coronado National Forest and so on.
 
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BTW, if any of you Phoenix doods know anyone looking for I.T. help, please let me know. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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My brother in law works in IT in Phoenix. He's worked with a couple of different places. Right now he works for a 3 man company, but he maybe able to point you in the right direction.
 
Any help would be appreciated!

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BTW, if any of you Phoenix doods know anyone looking for I.T. help, please let me know. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

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My brother in law works in IT in Phoenix. He's worked with a couple of different places. Right now he works for a 3 man company, but he maybe able to point you in the right direction.



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