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Unoffical "poll"

diesel4me said:
Quaker State-(Eh---I never liked them after a viscosity mix up that blew a lot of motors in the 80's.I've seen sludge problems with its older formula too
I agree about quakerstate. I will never even get quakerstate oil close to my truck. My dad had a 74 beetle a few years ago that ran with quakerstate. One day when changing the oil, we realized that the oil turned to vasoline looking sludge. Had to flush the motor. Nasty nasty stuff.

BTW- Where do you guys find all of the different weight mobil one. Someone said they run 15-50, and others 15-40. All they have around here is 10-30, 20-50, and sae 50. Thats it. Not even 10-40. :crazy:
-Harrison
 
valvoline

10w40 in summer
10w30 in winter

my three gm's love it! 74 K5, 87 burb, 95 K1500
 
Mobil or Cheveron. 10-30 in all my cars Which ever I can get on sale. From the tests I have seen Mobil and Chevron are just as good or better than the higher priced oils.

but I think dinosour juice is good enough for what I'm driving...
:thumb: :thumb: Yup! Me too.
The only thing I use syn oil in is my daughters VW Jetta. It is turbo charged and chipped. It and uses engine oil to cool and lube the turbo so it needs a good oil that can handle heat and her lead foot.
 
I use Valvoline High Mileage oil in my 'burb with 194,000 miles on it and in my '98 Dodge Ram with 104,000 on it. My 'burb was using a quart between changes until I switched to the high mileage stuff, now it doesn't use any.
I worked at the same Nissan dealer for ten years that had Penzoil 10w30 in bulk. Every car that got an oil change there got it. I've seen vehicles with 200k on them that got every service there that still looked new inside, no sludge or build up.
 
Using Mobil 1 synthetic 10W-30 in both my blazer and the wifes Nissan. Used it since both motors were new. I'll see how they wear then decide wether or not to switch back to castrol 10w-30. I do hear that synthetic will make an engine leak sooner but no evidence of that yet. :crazy:
 
i use gm goodwrench 10-30 :D

i think its mobil1, i work at a gm dealership so i get my oil for free.

i also use acdeclo filters
 
I use synthetic in the wife's minivan (can't remember the brand, might be mobil 1).
Whatever's on sale for my dd dodge Intrepid.
So far, exxon or mobil superflo in the truck.

I used to use synthetic blend in the K5, but saw some more leaks, so I think I switched back to dino juice before I sold it...
 
Going back to 20-50 Castrol.

Gives me more oil pressure than the 10-40 I have now.
 
Found this chart after a lot of surfing. I think Amsoil has the friggin market cornered on Internet advertising. Anyway you may have an interest.


"Choosing the best motor oil is a topic that comes up frequently in discussions between motoheads, whether they are talking about motorcycles or cars. The following article is intended to help you make a choice based on more than the advertising hype. Oil companies provide data on their oils most often referred to as "typical inspection data". This is an average of the actual physical and a few common chemical properties of their oils. This information is available to the public through their distributors or by writing or calling the company directly. I have compiled a list of the most popular, premium oils so that a ready comparison can be made.

If your favorite oil is not on the list get the data from the distributor and use what I have as a data base. This article is going to look at six of the most important properties of a motor oil readily available to the public: viscosity, viscosity index (VI), flash point, pour point, % sulfated ash, and % zinc.

Viscosity is the measure of how thick an oil is. This is the most important property for an engine. An oil with too low a viscosity can shear and loose film strength at high temperatures. An oil with too high a viscosity may not pump to the proper parts at low temperatures and the film may tear at high rpm.

****Our .02 again-- Viscosity INDEX or VI in the chart below is a measure of how much an oil's viscosity changes with temperature changes. The higher the VI, the less change that occurs and the better the protection.****

Flash point is the temperature at which an oil gives off vapors that can be ignited with a flame held over the oil. The lower the flash point the greater tendency for the oil to suffer vaporization loss at high temperatures and to burn off on hot cylinder walls and pistons. The flash point can be an indicator of the quality of the base stock used. The higher the flash point the better. 400 F is the minimum to prevent possible high consumption. Flash point is in degrees F.

Pour point is 5 degrees F above the point at which a chilled oil shows no movement at the surface for 5 seconds when inclined. This measurement is especially important for oils used in the winter. A borderline pumping temperature is given by some manufacturers. This is the temperature at which the oil will pump and maintain adequate oil pressure. This was not given by a lot of the manufacturers, but seems to be about 20 degrees F above the pour point. The lower the pour point the better. Pour point is in degrees F.

% sulfated ash is how much solid material is left when the oil burns. A high ash content will tend to form more sludge and deposits in the engine. Low ash content also seems to promote long valve life. Look for oils with a low ash content.

% zinc is the amount of zinc used as an extreme pressure, anti- wear additive. The zinc is only used when there is actual metal to metal contact in the engine. Hopefully the oil will do its job and this will rarely occur, but if it does, the zinc compounds react with the metal to prevent scuffing and wear. A level of .11% is enough to protect an automobile engine for the extended oil drain interval, under normal use. Those of you with high revving, air cooled motorcycles or turbo charged cars or bikes might want to look at the oils with the higher zinc content. More doesn't give you better protection, it gives you longer protection if the rate of metal to metal contact is abnormally high. High zinc content can lead to deposit formation and plug fouling.





The Data: Listed alphabetically

--- indicates the data was not available

**figures last updated April 1998

Please note figures with a (**) at the right side of them, are current figures taken from

the prospective web site's of that brand of oil up dated 2002.







Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

20W-50



AMSOIL(new) 155 474 -47 <.05 ---

Castrol GTX 122 440 -15 .85 .12

Exxon High Performance 119 419 -13 .70 .11

Havoline Formula 3 125 465 -30 1.0 ---

Kendall GT-1 129 390 -25 1.0 .16

Pennzoil GT Perf. 120 460 -10 .90 ---

Quaker State Dlx. 155 430 -25 .90 ---

Red Line 164 503 -49 --- ---

Royal Purple 138 435 -44 --- --- **

Shell Truck Guard 130 450 -15 1.0 .15

Spectro Golden 4 174 440 -35 --- .15

Spectro Golden M.G. 174 440 -35 --- .13

Unocal 121 432 -11 .74 .12

Valvoline All Climate 125 430 -10 1.0 .11

Valvoline Turbo 140 440 -10 .99 .13

Valvoline Race 140 425 -10 1.2 .20

Valvoline Synthetic 146 465 -40 <1.5 .12



Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

20W-40



AMSOIL 124 500 -49 --- ---

Castrol Multi-Grade 110 440 -15 .85 .12

Quaker State 121 415 -15 .90 ---



Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

15W-50



Chevron 204 415 -18 .96 .11

Mobil 1 180 430 -55 --- ---

Mystic JT8 144 420 -20 1.7 .15

Red Line 166 503 -49 --- ---



Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

5W-50



Castrol Syntec 180 437 -45 1.2 ---

Quaker State Synquest 173 457 -76 --- ---

Quaker State Prem.Syn 177 435 -35 --- --- **

Pennzoil Performax 176 --- -69 --- ---



Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

5W-40



Havoline 170 450 -40 1.4 ---



Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

5W-30 Heavy Duty Diesel



AMSOIL 170 460 -60 <.05 ---









Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

15W-40



AMSOIL(new) 157 446 -49 <.05 ---

Castrol 134 415 -15 1.3 .14

Chevron Delo 400 136 421 -27 1.0 ---

Exxon XD3 --- 417 -11 .90 .14

Exxon XD3 Extra 135 399 -11 .95 .13

Kendall GT-1 135 410 -25 1.0 .16

Mobil 1 Super Syn (NEW) 155 491 -49 --- --- ** (Auctually 15W 50)

Mystic JT8 142 440 -20 1.7 .15

Red Line 155 495 -40 --- ---

Royal Purple 149 400 -49 --- --- ** (Auctually 10W 40)

Shell Rotella w/XLA 146 410 -25 1.0 .13

Valvoline All Fleet 140 --- -10 1.0 .15

Valvoline Turbo 140 420 -10 .99 .13







Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

10W-30



AMSOIL 171 464 -54 <.05 ---

AMSOIL XL-7500 148 471 -54 <.05 ---

Castrol GTX 140 415 -33 .85 .12

Castrol Syntec 157 455 -54 --- .10

Chevron Supreme 150 401 -26 .96 .11

Exxon Superflo Hi Perf 135 392 -22 .70 .11

Exxon Superflo Supreme 133 400 -31 .85 .13

Havoline Formula 3 139 430 -30 1.0 ---

Kendall GT-1 139 390 -25 1.0 .16

Mobil 1 --- 430 -60 --- ---

Mobil 1 Super Syn.(NEW) 145 455 -49 --- --- **

Pennzoil PLZ Turbo 140 410 -27 1.0 ---

Quaker State 156 410 -30 .90 ---

Quaker State Prem Syn 148 440 -40 --- --- **

Red Line 150 475 -40 --- ---

Royal Purple 148 400 -49 --- --- **

Shell Fire and Ice 155 410 -35 .90 .12

Shell Super 2000 155 410 -35 1.0 .13

Shell Truck Guard 155 405 -35 1.0 .15

Spectro Golden M.G. 175 405 -40 --- ---

Unocal Super 153 428 -33 .92 .12

Valvoline All Climate 130 410 -26 1.0 .11

Valvoline Turbo 135 410 -26 .99 .13

Valvoline Race 130 410 -26 1.2 .20

Valvoline Synthetic 140 450 -40 <1.5 .12







Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

5W-30



AMSOIL 186 478 -60 <.05 ---

AMSOIL XL-7500 160 464 -60 <.05 ---

Castrol GTX 156 400 -35 .80 .12

Chevron Supreme 202? 354 -46 .96 .11

Chevron Supreme Synth. 165 446 -72 1.1 .12

Exxon Superflow HP 148 392 -22 .70 .11

Havoline Formula 3 158 420 -40 1.0 ---

Mobil 1 150 430 -65 --- ---

Mobil 1 Super Syn (NEW) 169 455 -54 --- --- **

Mystic JT8 161 390 -25 .95 .10

Quaker State 165 405 -35 .9 ---

Quaker State Prem Syn 151 440 -49 --- --- **

Red Line 165 455 -49 --- ---

Royal Purple 160 395 -44 --- --- **

Shell Fire and Ice 167 405 -35 .9 .12

Unocal 151 414 -33 .81 .12

Valvoline All Climate 135 405 -40 1.0 .11

Valvoline Turbo 158 405 -40 .99 .13

Valvoline Synthetic 160 435 -40 <1.5 .12







Brand VI Flash Pour %ash %zinc

0W-30



AMSOIL 188 460 -76 --- ---

Mobil 1 175 460 -65 --- ---

Mobil 1 Super Syn (NEW) 176 450 -65 --- --- **

All of the oils above meet current SG/CD ratings and all vehicle manufacturer's warranty requirements in the proper viscosity. All are "good enough", but those with the better numbers are icing on the cake. The more expensive synthetic oils; AMSOIL, Mobil 1, and Spectro offer the only truly significant differences, due to their superior high temperature oxidation resistance, high film strength, very low tendency to form deposits, stable viscosity base, and low temperature flow characteristics. Synthetic oils are superior lubricants compared to traditional petroleum oils. You will have to decide if their high cost is justified in your application.
 
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