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vehicle recovery in snow

is a winch a good idea for bad weather recovery?

  • Heck yeah, best possible optionl

    Votes: 13 52.0%
  • yeah it will work, but straps will too.

    Votes: 8 32.0%
  • stick with the straps, winch wont cut it.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • why drive around in snow when you can stay home and be nekked.

    Votes: 4 16.0%

  • Total voters
    25

K5dreamer

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Hey guys, just wondering what your preference is for pulling cars out of ditches and snow banks when the weather turns bad. Ive got two straps in the truck, but noticed durring the blizzard earlier this year that i usually had to drive into the same crap the other car was stuck in, in order to get close enough to use the straps. I never got stuck, but on more than one occation the traction was limited enough that i couldnt get the other vehicle out, but could unhook from them, and get myself out. Since the front of the truck is buggered from the accident anyway, im debating an upgraded front bumper with a spot for a winch (winch will have to wait for fundage), and using a winch to pull people out instead of the strap. Kinda like using my truck as an anchor on good traction, and the winch to reach out and touch them. see poll for options.
 
If you're gonna make a habit out of going out and dragging people out of the snow, a winch is a darn good thing to have in your arsenal.

But, on the other hand, you live in Virginia. Does it really snow there?
 
lol, yeah we're certainly not buffalo or billings, but in the past few years we've had some surprises. Figure its one of those things I have to do as a truck owner. Because it dosnt snow that often, almost no one around here knows how to drive in it. I also volunteer at the hospital when the snow is bad and pick up doctors and nurses and everything. So I usually make a day of picking up cute nurses and pulling people out of ditches. I even got a snow plow, and a few UPS trucks the last go around before the semi ran me into a jersey wall at 40mph (the reason the front end is buggered).
 
id say yes.. but as you said... you couldnt get the weight down for traction to get the other person out.. if you have no solid anchor point then a winch wont do it for ya either...

im planning a hydro winch up front some day and i have my electric out back (15k patriot extreme).....can never be too prepaired!!!! :dunno:
 
I don't anymore. I got a ticket for helping someone that was off the road. Wreckless driving. Got it reduced to a non moving violation, judge told me to stop pulling people out and let the professionals do it.

Now I have pulled folks out after that I will stop if a cop is already there. Countys guys are usually very grateful to have the help as are city guys.
 
yea gettin a ticket for helping someone out of the snow is a bunch of BS, in ky the past few years we have been gettin really bad ice storms and id be helping people out of parking lots and stuff and ive hade cops come and try to give me tickets and stuff for wreckless driving and distubing the peace lol,

(had a cop let me go and then he got stuck and i just put it in 4hi and drove right by him as he slid back down to the curb, screw him if he is goin to ticket me for helping people he can just sit and wait for the tow truck haha)
 
Problem with either is with newer cars finding a place to hook to.
Be very careful, the grateful unstuck person doesn't sue you for damage later on down the road.
A winch is best when it fits in the budget
 
personally i dont pull out anyone i dont know...
it has to be a friend, friend of a friend, another truck guy or one of my brothers.... i dont want to be told i broke something...
 
I don't anymore. I got a ticket for helping someone that was off the road. Wreckless driving. Got it reduced to a non moving violation, judge told me to stop pulling people out and let the professionals do it.

Now I have pulled folks out after that I will stop if a cop is already there. Countys guys are usually very grateful to have the help as are city guys.
WTF is that about?Were you somehow endangering the lives of other people driving down the road?If it were me helping somebody which I don't do often Id snap-Id snap:weapon2: if some redneck cop gave me a reckless ticket.Its considered to be as bad as DUI and can get jail time for that.I'm getting mad just thinking about it.:mad:If it were me and I somehow held it together Id be making a big thing out of that and straighten there a$$ out so they don't pull that crap again.I'm real curious about the exact circumstances leading up to that because it seems unbelievable.
 
The problem with pulling people from the ditch in the snow is that you almost have to drive yourself into the lane of oncoming traffic. You want to pull them out the same way they went in. When you drive past a stuck car in a truck obviously set up for 4-wheeling, the people look at you with hope. They know that you know how to do an extraction and figure you have the equipment with you. But I save it for back roads or somebody I know. Let the wreckers with flashing lights and a license take care of the freeways and busy streets.

I try to keep at least one strap with me all winter. When I do offer it to somebody I make them acknowledge that their vehicle could be damaged and I say "Hook this onto the part you want me to pull off". I make sure they connect to a good pulling point, but I make them hook it up.

Obviously the best setup is some long straps and a winch. Bonus points if you can strap yourself to a tree and pull them out with the winch.
 
Wait, I just thought of a cooler option than a winch: Mattracks

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i would be all over the mattracks!!

and i agree with yall about the risk of angry people and damage, i make sure i talk about that ahead of time with em. But sometimes you just gotta stop and help. For instance durring the blizzard this feb. i pulled three UPS box trucks down my street because they tried to make it and it hadnt been plowed yet. they were blocking the street, plows and people couldnt get by, and the snowplows were all busy with main roads.
 
Living in Florida, I naturally know ALL there is to know about pulling vehicles out in snow.......:rolleyes:

But, I have been pulling things out in nasty situations for about 40 years now, so I may have some insight.

Does that last sentence sound a little off?

Anyway, I mostly use a winch. I actually predate straps, so I am a little biased.
There are situations where only a strap will do, but in general a winch gives you more control over the situation.
The problem with using a winch is anchorage. You have to be more firmly attached than what you are trying to pull out.

I have about 3 ways to do that.
The first way, is to hook my cable up, don't start the winch.
Put the truck in 4wd, in reverse.

I can usually dig the wheels down enough to give me some hold.

In your case, unless its on pavement and you can generate enough friction to melt down to the pavement, or if the ground is not frozen deep enough for you to dig through to soft dirt, all you are going to do is polish some ice.

In that case, you are in the same situation I am in when trying to pull someone out while I am in just total owl snot.
In that case, the strap might get the job done. You can usually get enough traction to get your truck moving and let its kinetic energy pull the other one out.

The second method is to stick yourself. Many times I have backed into the ditch on the other side of the road.
Its tricky.
If the road is really bad, you need to start trying to drive yourself out just as the other car is coming up on the road.
If you time it right, both of you wind up unstuck at the same time.
If the road is good, you can wait until they are out and then use them as an anchor.

You can also use the stick-yourself trick if there is a big tree to hook to after you get them out.

The third way, is not an option for a lot of folks here with winches.
There is a reason I have a front bumper made out of 8 inch channel iron. Well, besides knocking down trees.
My winch mounts horizontally.
In other words, the front mounting point is against the inside of the front bumper.

There is nothing wrong with having the winch mount vertically on feet, but with mine, there is minimal load on the bolts.

My favorite pulling method is to put the bumper against a large tree and let the bumper do all the holding.
My transfer case is in neutral, and I do not have to hold the brakes.
In this way, there is no strain on the suspension.

That is the way I used my winch to pull the 3 ton garbage truck with all flat tires sideways across dirt at the junkyard to get parts off of it.
I was able to put my bumper against a large live oak.

The tires, and a little later the rims after the tires rolled off, dug almost down to the axle.
There is no way I could have gotten enough traction to do that pull with my tires alone.

A lot of the folks here would not have that as an option, because they kept the factory chrome bumpers.

I have deliberately left off the fourth way, but I do need to touch on it.

Using a strap or chain hooked to the rear hitch, or using a rear mounted winch to hold your truck can get nasty.

I don't know where my post is on that subject, but if you happen to be down in a dip or low spot, on a hard pull, your truck can come completely off the ground suspended between the two anchor points.

It will then most likely flip upside down like mine did and you will wind up on the ceiling with everything on the dash, seat, and floorboards in your face with the engine choking on all the oil that is suddenly in the wrong place.

If not, there is also the danger of stretching, damaging or pulling your frame in two.

My old truck, I had two heavy chains that ran from the front winch mount on both sides of the frame, to the rear trailer hitch frame.
Pulled tight.

In that way, the frame did not have to carry the load.

I realize that you were looking for strap vs winch comparisons, but you already know about straps, so I wanted to give you a winch perspective.
 
It will then most likely flip upside down like mine did and you will wind up on the ceiling with everything on the dash, seat, and floorboards in your face with the engine choking on all the oil that is suddenly in the wrong place.

You may not own one of these fullsize Chevy/GMC trucks but I am glad you are a member here. You share so many different scenarios for so many different situations brought up on this site. Some of the things I read from you I wonder how you are even here today to talk about them. I enjoy learning from your mistakes. :D
 
Theres a great "recovery" waiver someone posted on here a while back. Its in my truck.

If i remember, its worth scanning and keeping a copy in your glove box.
 
Some of the things I read from you I wonder how you are even here today to talk about them

You aren't the only one. I have never been a daredevil, never taken unnecessary risks, things just seem to happen to me and around me.
I have had things happen years ago that still scare me today. No idea how I made it.

I enjoy learning from your mistakes. :D

Not half as much as I did making them........

BTW, here is a better telling of the flipped truck story, along with some good stuff about PTO and/or hydraulic winches.

http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=247677
 
Too many variables doing snow recoveries, be prepared for whatever :D The harder the better! This truck took us almost 2 weeks to get out.

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Too many variables doing snow recoveries, be prepared for whatever :D The harder the better! This truck took us almost 2 weeks to get out.


That guy almost had his truck stuck there for the winter...:haha:

A few more days and it would have been lost forever...

Is that Casey on the upper left???


And yeah, Bobby does look confused...:D
 

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