Its been raining here in SoCal (which is rare) and I didn't have my front driveshaft on due damage... but I had to take the truck out and get it muddy all the same. The area doesn't look real deep but it is thick along the middle. I pulled a couple 4wd trucks out the day before. It was only a matter of time before I hit a deep spot and the wide front 38's stopped the truck... thats what I get for trying to avoid debris in the pit! Its 7MB at 256K so cable or DSL users only. http://www.echobit.com/video/2wd-muddin.wmv Karma brought someone out there and they pulled me out... thankfully!