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warn winch question

Magikal

Magikal

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warn m8000I winch. should all four solenoid , receive power when the switch on the controller is pressed? none of the solenoid click. was thinking maybe the ground isn't hooked up ( common wire from other side of the solenoids) haven't had much time to look at it yet so it may be something quite simple. winch got tore off bumper, taking a terminal out of a solenoid. replaced the one solenoid and now nothing happens when I press the controller. solenoid sat in a dead short fir appx 30 sec when accident happened before I could un hook the battery. I did jump the motor to verify it actually works still and that part is all good. thanks for any education you all are about to post on thus thread for me!
 
Well, its a cinch that something should click......

Actually, two solenoids should click when you press the switch. Two when you press forward, and the other two when you press back.
If it shorted to ground, you need to check the main power cable from the battery too. It might have melted internally.

But, all the solenoids should have one side of their coil hooked to a common ground.
 
main power and main ground are good ( did have to replace main power as it melted most of the sheathing off). Yeah. two should power up (click) one way and two the other way is what I thought. right now, I get zero clicks anywhere. I suspect the common ground to ask the solenoids may have burnt through our something. I will check after work this afternoon
 
ok. here's the update. Finally got my winch working 100% again. Had to add a ground wire from solenoids to housing. That's after disassembling and testing each solenoid, disassemble and test controller.... but not sure why I had to add an additional wire. all original wires are in place and test good. all connections are correct. referenced two different guides to be sure. the extra ground wire was pretty much a last chance effort before succumbing to defeat. can anyone explain why suddenly it needs this wire/ ground? What has happened to require it now when it was never necessary before??
 
Not sure, really. All DC components like those solenoids must have two connections. Positive 12 volt, and Negative 12 volt, which is usually the ground connection.
If the solenoids already had a ground connection, it must have been damaged. As far as I know, the controller just puts the positive line to the appropriate solenoids, all of them share the ground.

Did you see a ground to the solenoids before you added the wire?
 
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this is the writing diagram. it shows the brown ground wire going up to the controller and then back as the red wire ( the only ground in the circuit?)
 
The newer Warn winches also switch the solenoid ground wire thru the control too. I believe the red wire with the ring terminal on it should be hooked to ground and when you push in or out it connects to the brown wire that hooks to all 4 solenoids to ground them.
 
Yep, that is exactly what they are doing. I guess its a safety idea to break both sides of the solenoid coils so that if one side of the switch sticks, the other side should kill the winch.
It should work the way you have it, but if you want to restore the added safety factor, you need to hook up that red wire to ground, or check and/or repair the switch or brown/red wire, and remove the one you added.

That is a strangely drawn schematic, but it makes perfect sense once you realize how they are showing some of the stuff.
 
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