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Warning to all those that want to bedline your interior...

Stomis

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Make sure you precoat everything first. Bed liner WILL NOT kill rust and stop it from chewing air and taking on moisture. It simply encapsulates it and makes it worse.

I found this out the hard way. Had minor surface rust that I hit with a wire wheel like 3 years ago. Then I bedlined the inside of the truck. Well the spot where it was bad has rotted out and the surface rust spread underneath the bedliner.

Now I need to strip all the liner, wire wheel it, and por15 the floor pans, then reapply the bed liner...

Any advice on stripping the bedliner out? Torch and a scraper?
 
Stomis said:
Make sure you precoat everything first. Bed liner WILL NOT kill rust and stop it from chewing air and taking on moisture. It simply encapsulates it and makes it worse.

I found this out the hard way. Had minor surface rust that I hit with a wire wheel like 3 years ago. Then I bedlined the inside of the truck. Well the spot where it was bad has rotted out and the surface rust spread underneath the bedliner.

Now I need to strip all the liner, wire wheel it, and por15 the floor pans, then reapply the bed liner...

Any advice on stripping the bedliner out? Torch and a scraper?
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Ouch. THis is in your cab? If its in your bed...find a new bed....
 
dhcomp said:
Ouch. THis is in your cab? If its in your bed...find a new bed....
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Lol what bed? :laugh:



No its in my cab. Driveside cab where the kick panel would go. Its not a big deal. I'll cut it out and burn some metal in. What I am concerned with is getting the rest of the bed liner out to por15 the floor...
 
They have an adhesive remover at home depot in the paint section that comes in a purplish can. I can't remember the name but it worked great to get my duraback off. Get a good set of gloves cause it burns your skin if you don't have anything on
 
88k5blazin said:
They have an adhesive remover at home depot in the paint section that comes in a purplish can. I can't remember the name but it worked great to get my duraback off. Get a good set of gloves cause it burns your skin if you don't have anything on
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Thank you much.
 
Thanks for the heads up. Ive been planning on lining my entire floor. I know I have rust, and pretty much planned on doing what you said. Wire brush it all clean. I probably would have sprayed some cheap primer on it from a rattle can before I took the liner to it, but I might be a little more cautious now.
 
I start by wire brushing with a drill and sanding the rust. Next step is to coat with West Marine's Rust-Lock before priming with 2 coats of Pettit's Rustlock Steel Primer. These products are designed for salt-water environments. Finally I top coat with 2 coats of Herculiner.
 
Well POR-15 pretty much does the same thing you are describing the bedliner doing. In either case, it is just a urethane covering over the rust.
 
Mine has the same problem as yours (from the PO). The back tailgate section on the floor is rusted and it looks like he just "Rhino-lined" the whole back area....probably no prep at all based on everything I've seen on this truck.:rolleyes:

I'm glad to hear there is a way of getting the stuff off. I'd like to see how much rust there really is under there. Right now I'm just guessing.

At least I got some new carpet to cover it all up!:waytogo: Out of sight, out of mind, right??......:whistle:
 
The problem lies in the backside/underside of the panel with the coating. The coating can only protect the side it has been applied to. If the panel is rusty on the other side and then rusts through to the coated side, the coating will act as a trap for dirt and moisture coming up from underneath. If the panel was rusty and porous to begin with, than the topcoat will do nothing for the panel unless you can block the moisture from the underside.
 
This is true, but even a small chip in the finish on one side does the same thing.
 
496truck said:
The problem lies in the backside/underside of the panel with the coating. The coating can only protect the side it has been applied to. If the panel is rusty on the other side and then rusts through to the coated side, the coating will act as a trap for dirt and moisture coming up from underneath. If the panel was rusty and porous to begin with, than the topcoat will do nothing for the panel unless you can block the moisture from the underside.
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Bingo.

Also, what liner did you use? Herculiner or one of the roll on "paint with **** in it" products or an actual spray on liner like Rhino Liner, Line-X, Al's or whatever?

Did the rust come up from the bottom or continue rusting down from the top?

You can encapsulate rust and cease it's progress if the metal is still sound. However it has to be COMPLETELY encapsulated and can NEVER get moisture on it again. If not you've just put a fancy covering over the rust and it will continue to spread underneath the covering.
 
AJMBLAZER said:
Bingo.

Also, what liner did you use? Herculiner or one of the roll on "paint with **** in it" products or an actual spray on liner like Rhino Liner, Line-X, Al's or whatever?

Did the rust come up from the bottom or continue rusting down from the top?

You can encapsulate rust and cease it's progress if the metal is still sound. However it has to be COMPLETELY encapsulated and can NEVER get moisture on it again. If not you've just put a fancy covering over the rust and it will continue to spread underneath the covering.
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I think its the issue of it coming up from the bottom but I still wouldnt trust just bedliner to encapsulate rust and lock it up like por15 will.
 
This is exactly what I've been afraid of, I've had the stuff to do mine since last summer, my truck is solid, but I'm afraid of not being able to see what's happening under there. I had some surface rust in the same spot from the carpet holding moisture. I wire wheeled it and epoxy primered it and it hasn't come back, but I'm afraid it will. At least right now if it reapears I can get after it easily... What do you guys think? Truthfully I wanted the bedliner because I plan on having the top off a lot more this year, and for some sound deadening in the interior.
 
Nice thick coating of Rhino Liner or whatever? Yes, it'll encapsulate THE SIDE IT'S ON just fine. The paint with **** in it liner? Nope.

You need a product that will completely cover the surface without any porosity. It needs to be on both sides if you never want to worry about it.
 
AJMBLAZER said:
Nice thick coating of Rhino Liner or whatever? Yes, it'll encapsulate THE SIDE IT'S ON just fine. The paint with **** in it liner? Nope.

You need a product that will completely cover the surface without any porosity. It needs to be on both sides if you never want to worry about it.
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I used Herculiner. Which is suppose to be the quality roll on stuff.
 
I'm thinking a witch doctor needs to be consulted immediately... :pimp:



sorry, couldn't resist.... :haha:
 
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