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1978Blazerk5

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Anyone Ever run em? If so how are they?


Also anyone ever run this winch? (wouldnt buy from northern tool though:doah:)
http://www.northerntool.com/webapp/...&cm_ite=Froogle&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=144194


And With a usa made winch (Warn, Ramsey, ect.) do you/can you get some sorta warrenty,more than the "factory" warrenty?

And what style fairlead, Ive always been curious on why some run the roller type and otheres the hawse style?



Thanks
 
my bud runs their 16k one it works just as good as the 16.5 TI model warn i personally think they just dont have the W on them basically the rest is all warn internals and good warranty and cheaper in price!
 
Roller fairleads are generally used with wire rope, and the hawse style are used for synthetic rope. I believe that is correct anyway.
 
lectric80 said:
Roller fairleads are generally used with wire rope, and the hawse style are used for synthetic rope. I believe that is correct anyway.
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I've seen hawse used with steel cable as well. I'm not sure of the advantages on one or the other
 
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muddermilitia said:
I've seen hawse used with steel cable as well. I'm sure in the advantages on one or the other
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I think a roller is just an upgrade,with wire.The last 2 i got it was anyway.
The roller also helps with winding the wire back in easier.
With rope you can pinch it in a roller real easy.And aluminum is smooth so I *think* it the one they say to get for rope.
 
My dad used hawse with his 8274 with steel cable for years, but I think the roller is a little better for the steel cable, since it isn't one quite such a bind when at an angle.
 
I would think that cable would tear up a Hawse fairlead.

The Hawse style fairlead will give you a significantly better approach angle (roller fairleads stick out almost 2" further than a Hawse fairlead).

I had a roller fairlead with cable and now have a Hawse fairlead with synthetic rope, I bet you can guess what my preference is toward :deal:
 
I think the hawse style used for steel rope need to be steel.

The ones for synthetic are aluminum and have a polished surface to prevent chafing.
 
1978Blazerk5 said:
And With a usa made winch (Warn, Ramsey, ect.) do you/can you get some sorta warrenty,more than the "factory" warrenty?
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Let me just say: What good is a warranty when you're stuck?

Sure, the likelihood of failure is generally inversely proportional to warranty, i.e. a manufacturer will warranty a quality product longer than a cheap one. (Unless they're Harbor Freight :D )

Plus, if you mail order a winch and it fails ... you're gonna take it off the truck and ship it back -- on your dime -- to god knows where, where it gets rebuilt (they wouldn't just send you a new one). You're out time, shipping costs, and hassle.

A winch is pretty simple; the failure points are of course electrical and moving parts, but the gearboxes and such are hard to break. It's the solenoids that gum up and the levers and controls that get broken. Point being, treat your winch well and know how it works. (Touch your winch ... love your winch... like Dieter's monkey :haha: )

You keep posting here trying to avoid spending real money on a real winch, and ignoring the advice you get. Face it, you get what you pay for -- including my advice, worth every penny of free :haha:At the very least you should pony up and get a real membership if you're not gonna listen to us.

The adage is "Buy the best and cry once." Think about that for a while. :deal:

Side note: synthetic rope could tear on steel, which is why you see the aluminum fairleads for it. Softer rope means softer hawse. Synthetic doesn't kink the way steel line does, which negates the need for a roller fairlead. The rollers act to increase the bend radius coming out of the winch, right, for off-center pulls.

Note I've also seen UHMWPE, i.e. fancy plastic, fairleads (in fact, the same material used on a plastic cutting board). Same thing, soft material doesn't nick the way steel does and won't tear up the line... heck, UHMWPE is self-lubricating, they say, so it's, well, slick :D

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I would use a Harbor freight winch on a trailer. Thats about all. I feel pretty much the same about everything, but Warn. I searched for info on winches before I bought mine. Buy a Warn, was the most common thing I saw. I waited a few more months and then I bought a Warn. That winch has spent a third of its wheeling life underwater. I have beat on it an abused it. I have pulled 15 trucks with it, in the same night. I pulled the ends off of it once to lube it and reseal it. There was nothing unusual inside.

When I am on the trail, I don't care about warranty, I don't care about price, I don't care about name brands or advertising. All I care about is reliability. Buy a Warn.
 
dremu said:
Let me just say: What good is a warranty when you're stuck?

Sure, the likelihood of failure is generally inversely proportional to warranty, i.e. a manufacturer will warranty a quality product longer than a cheap one. (Unless they're Harbor Freight :D )

Plus, if you mail order a winch and it fails ... you're gonna take it off the truck and ship it back -- on your dime -- to god knows where, where it gets rebuilt (they wouldn't just send you a new one). You're out time, shipping costs, and hassle.

You keep posting here trying to avoid spending real money on a real winch, and ignoring the advice you get. Face it, you get what you pay for -- including my advice, worth every penny of free :haha:At the very least you should pony up and get a real membership if you're not gonna listen to us.

The adage is "Buy the best and cry once." Think about that for a while. :deal:
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Ya true but, I was curious on that.

What you mean about harbor fright?

I would NOT buy a winch from anywhere online, if i bought one, it would be from someplace local.

Hey, I am listing to your advise, or someone advise anyway. Everything I posted is USA made wich is what everone says is best, nothin I posted is japanese crap. (at least i dont think so, cause i thought ramsey and Warn are usa made.)

Ya I belive that I figure I can pysicaly afford a $750 winch, I cant get anything over that, cause its not budgetin its I just dont have the money. Cause I gotta still spend $600+ on a bumper. and like $150 on the tree saver strap, snatch block, d-rings, and other straps.

I do really apricciate you anwsering my questions, and I am not gonna lie, there is an extra $25 I added to my to do list, i will let ya figure out what its for.

Leper said:
I would use a Harbor freight winch on a trailer. Thats about all. I feel pretty much the same about everything, but Warn. I searched for info on winches before I bought mine. Buy a Warn, was the most common thing I saw. I waited a few more months and then I bought a Warn. That winch has spent a third of its wheeling life underwater. I have beat on it an abused it. I have pulled 15 trucks with it, in the same night. I pulled the ends off of it once to lube it and reseal it. There was nothing unusual inside.

When I am on the trail, I don't care about warranty, I don't care about price, I don't care about name brands or advertising. All I care about is reliability. Buy a Warn.
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I dont really care about warrenty, all I want is someone to come back to and b*tch at if the thing decides to break ever.

Also what type of warn do ya have?
 
I have the XD9000. I made longer cables and put the solenoid box up by the battery. I lengthened the wires and mounted the controller plug on the passenger side fender. It sits so that it is protected by my cage. You just walk up to the fender and plug in.

If you don't go with the "i" models it is much easier to mount because of the lower profile.

1978Blazerk5 said:
I dont really care about warrenty, all I want is someone to come back to and b*tch at if the thing decides to break ever.
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I'd rather have one that didn't break. Buy a Warn.
 
Leper said:
If you don't go with the "i" models it is much easier to mount because of the lower profile.
I'd rather have one that didn't break. Buy a Warn.
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You can mount them "feet forward" and then the winch will tuck underneath the radiator.
 
I run a warn xd9000i on the front of my jimmy workw well with no prob, I picke up a ramsey quick mount 5000 for 100$. I have to say the warn does not have anything over the ramsey. Ramsey 5000 was a surprise when i had to use it. The XDI winches as mentioned earlier have alot less mounting options. For the weight of a full size i wish i kept my old pierce viking 9000, slow heavy but pull a house simple and reliable. No matter what you buy spend a little more and have back up hi lift or HD come along, they will save you when the truck and batteries take a brake.
just my 2cents

Jesse
 
Leper said:
Can you still access the plug for the controller that way?
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I believe its kinda tricky to get at. So If I did it this way I would probably plug in the controller and route it underhood then through the dash so it's permanently attached. VTblazer mounted his winch this way, there's a thread about it in the 69-72 section

EDIT: here's the link http://coloradok5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=208578
I'm either mounting mine this way or I'm going to use a bumper center from DIY4x
 
There is a write up about using a orange extension cord with ground and flat trailer connectors to wire in cab winch control on a warn winch. I did i on my xd it is well worth it and easy, i think the wires were even the same color, if you do this mod you can also add a plug in for remote and put it where you want.

Jesse
 
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