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What the hell is the world coming to, when Snap On isn't made in the USA anymore!?!?

I have some worn out snappy metric sockets. Going to have to crack them to make sure warranty is no problem. Our new snappy guy is kind of an ass. (the constantly changing snappy guys where I work is past the point of irritating) He is the 4th guy in 3 years. All the rest of the tool guys have been the same ones all along. Snap ons steel is as good as it gets. Cornwell steel is the same for me as well. There is some variation on the Mac and Matco stuff. No idea on the why or where of that.
 
As long as the quality stays the same I could give two ****s were snap-on is made, I'd still buy it . best tools and tool boxes hands down.
 
smalltruckbigcid said:
I have some worn out snappy metric sockets. Going to have to crack them to make sure warranty is no problem. Our new snappy guy is kind of an ass. (the constantly changing snappy guys where I work is past the point of irritating) He is the 4th guy in 3 years. All the rest of the tool guys have been the same ones all along. Snap ons steel is as good as it gets. Cornwell steel is the same for me as well. There is some variation on the Mac and Matco stuff. No idea on the why or where of that.
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I've always lucked out with my tool guys.. they where always VERY consistent, but I have heard horror stories about not showing up, etc.... I'd really like to get a Mac guy in my marina... I may check into who covers my marina's area...
 
If I could get my MAC guy to become a Snap-On guy that would be the best. We have a great MAC guy, the same one years. S-O dealers get replaced every year or two.
 
bigjbear said:
If I could get my MAC guy to become a Snap-On guy that would be the best. We have a great MAC guy, the same one years. S-O dealers get replaced every year or two.
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I had some very good, consistent Snappie guys back in the day, the last guy, who I had for a couple yrs was meh... not horrible, not great... at least he showed up every week...

I never had a Mac guy until 10 yrs ago, up until 2 yrs ago.... Shea, he rocked, I remember when he started.... he carried tons of stuff, all kinds of ATD, droplights, etc, different brands.. would deal with ya, listen to your needs, etc....

I hope the guy that covers my current area is as good as he was... I may end up hitting up the Matco guy I've seen around town to stop in... never had a Matco guy.... I'll give em a shot tho... not sure I've ever seen a Mac truck in this area..
 
82355 said:
How about Cornwell?

Martin
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I have a few cornwell tools. Never had any issues with them. Matco on the other hand. The few tools I have gotten from them I would not buy again. Most of my stuff is snappie, and the rest is MAC.
 
82355 said:
Worn out how? Snap On should warranty them if there is any defect.

Martin
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Doesn't fit the bolt or nut head right anymore. I noticed it the other day on an MBE 4000 EGR cooler mount. The bolts that hold that bracket to the heads, the actual nut section of them is not as tall and the socket skipped on them.

Some, not all, Snappy guys have said the sockets worn out so you need to buy a replacement not able to be warrantied since it did it's job and you wore it out.

I only have snap-on cornwell and chinese made MTD sockets. What I have noticed is the snap-on and cornwell sockets will wear, the steel is softer. The MTD ones show almost no wear. Thats the good point. My impact though does show the wear from the MTD sockets.
 
I've had that warrantied for me before, but you are right, it all depends on your dealer.

Martin
 
Just had to have a 12 point 9/16 replaced because it was wore out. I use it all the time on Dodge unit bearings and noticed it slipped on one I was doing last week. Showed it to the MAC guy and he ordered a new one up no questions asked.
 
FOR MUD said:
If only it was "slightly" higher......Double or triple is the norm.
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And there's where you're wrong. Have you priced in comparison AT ALL in the last 10 years? Price a set of mac or matco sockets, and then price the same set of sockets from Snap-on. You'll find the Snap-on set generally has more pieces in it, and is SLIGHTLY more expensive. A fair trade off for the only company that makes their own tools.

We could argue this all day. But if you want facts, I'll be happy to share what I can.

Cold forged steel is stronger than heat stamped steel. Snap-on steel is Pittsburgh Steel coated in soap for transport, to eliminate rust, and prevent failures. Did I mention, the only company that makes their own tools. Mac is a division of Stanley (someone say walmart?). Matco is made by Danaher (low bidder, Craftsman say what?). As far as their screwdrivers? Cornwell and Matco use WHITTE brand screwdrivers with their name on it. Makes sense, right? Use another company, put your name on it, double the price.

Pliers that are made as a matching pair? Yep, they last longer, fit better and work better that way, instead of making them on a big line of left and right.

What else ya wanna know?
 
82355 said:
Worn out how? Snap On should warranty them if there is any defect.

Martin
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Actually, if you could read the warranty statement in the catalog, you'd notice that tools DO have an expectant life, they are not designed to work for 50 years. If you wear out a set of tires that are covered by road hazard, you'd probably throw a fit about them not being covered, wouldn't you?

I'll warranty worn out sockets for my customers, but some joe schmoe off the street who walks up with a box full of them, that he likely bought at a flea market? No thanks, not going to lose money, or the chance of selling my stuff, because some cheap dickhead bought a bunch of crap used, only to get new ones at my expense.
 
ryoken said:
if you think you can justify "I did my job just as well with Craftsman, etc" I call bs.... not in my line of work you wouldn't... tighter clearances on a Snappie box end alone prove that daily in my job... flank drive, etc.... I constantly get it from my one boss, "gee, my Husky, Craftsman, whatever wont fit on this, can I borrow.............. "
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that's called concentric broaching, having the same thickness all the way around a wrench or socket. lets talk about one more thing. Grab a 12 point wrench of snap-ons, then grab a 12 point wrench of mac or matco, then another of mac or matco, the same size. you could put 10 snapon wrenches on a piece of hex stock, and they would all line up the same, mac or matco, not so much.

how about socket shoulders? ours are higher, and the centers of our sockets are larger. starting a nut on a long stud is easier this way
 
Our Snap On guy warrantied a ratchet form the 20's the other day.

Martin
 
Confedneck said:
Use another company, put your name on it, double the price.
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I never understood that. Case in point, I loved my buddies Matco wrenches. They were the older late 80s early to mid 90s Bonney made wrenches. So, I ended up buying a few sets of Bonney for myself for less than half of what my bud paid for his matco set. Same wrenches. Almost the same part numbers. It's crazy!
 
concentric broaching < that is a very good thing!

Old school Bonney or Wright wrenches are pretty sweet. I have a couple and my 7/8ths wright isn't fully polished or even real pretty but it's good quality.
 
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