What the hell is the world coming to, when Snap On isn't made in the USA anymore!?!?

[Confedneck]

Confedneck your getting nasty again and calling people names.

calm down please this is a nice site not nasty hard core pirate

I didn't know "buffoon" was a hurtful phrase when generalizing a group who simply complain about one thing without reason.

Oh, and disagreeing with someone, while presenting opinions or facts is not being nasty.

 

[82355]

The fact that they are better tools does NOT prove that they are not overpriced. Their insane prices prove that they are overpriced. That being said, Snap On sets their prices, so if you want to own the best, you pay the price. I was just sticking up for the people you always insult.

Martin

 

[ARAMP1]

snap on is only worth it if your going to be wrenching for a living.

That's not necessarily true. I would disagree in my case anyway. I, and several of my friends who are not professional mechanics, find value in using/owning Snap On tools. I've spent several 30-40 hour weeks in my garage, after a sometimes physically demanding full time job too, and it's worth it to me to have nice tools.

 

[ssyork]

Danaher is the low bidder that makes craftsman and matco.

Really Confedneck?
In one of your last post you basically say Sanp-on has bought up other smaller companies and they make tools to snap-on specs. Right?

I have to agree with having Matco/Mac/Snap-on tools at home. I have never used my tools to make a living, but wouldn't give up my good stuff at home. The prices are high, but they deliver them to the shops and take payments. Taking the risk of the payments is the big thing. I haven't met a tool guy yet who wouldn't give a discount for cash$$. Not credit card or checks but cash.

 

[yellowK20]

Really Confedneck?The prices are highER, but they deliver them to the shops and take payments. Taking the risk of the payments is the big thing. I haven't met a tool guy yet who wouldn't give a discount for cash$$. Not credit card or checks but cash.

My Snap-On Guy in New Mexico will come to my house between his normal stops if I give him a couple hours notice.


Or Snap-On Guy in Anchorage will be at our office in an hour or less when we call him.

 

[ssyork]

My Snap-On Guy in New Mexico will come to my house between his normal stops if I give him a couple hours notice.


Or Snap-On Guy in Anchorage will be at our office in an hour or less when we call him.

Thanks for making my post right with "er". I have had them at my office too, and used to make house calls/ extra shop deliveries when needed. Which in my mind makes paying a little extra sometimes very much worth it.
Edit-Also just being nicer tools

 

[Confedneck]

Really Confedneck?
In one of your last post you basically say Sanp-on has bought up other smaller companies and they make tools to snap-on specs. Right?

Yes, really. There's a difference, however. Making tools for a parent company, and them being made by a low bidder. Just an example, and it's small details that make the differences. I've never gotten a Snap-on wrench into my inventory that was so poorly formed, it was immediately visible to the naked eye, but I have seen other companies have this happen. Quality control sets the standard.

 

[Confedneck]

The fact that they are better tools does NOT prove that they are not overpriced. Their insane prices prove that they are overpriced. That being said, Snap On sets their prices, so if you want to own the best, you pay the price. I was just sticking up for the people you always insult.

Martin

The people I always insult? Again, you should just be a politician, you're quite good at the requisite skill set.
Insane prices to who? You? You buy them? You're willing to pay more for a better product? Let me know when insanity sets in.

 

[ssyork]

Yes, really. There's a difference, however. Making tools for a parent company, and them being made by a low bidder. Just an example, and it's small details that make the differences. I've never gotten a Snap-on wrench into my inventory that was so poorly formed, it was immediately visible to the naked eye, but I have seen other companies have this happen. Quality control sets the standard.

So how is this different than Matco? Other than the parent company is Danaher, which owns Matco. Other Danaher companies are making the majority of tools that are branded with Matco. I wouldn't be to surprised if a Danaher Co is making some branded Snap-on stuff. That is something that will never be let out though.
So, how long have you been a snappy dealer?

 

[yellowK20]

Heres's my take.

I don't really care who owns who, our who makes who's tools.

I care about the quality of the tools

Craftsman may use the same manufacture as Snap-on but that does not make the Craftsman Tool as good as Snap-On .

As was said above Snap-On has a Much higher quality control standards

That Combined with the above mentioned dealer perks justify the higher prices.







I'm not a Snap-On freak, I have other brands of QUALITY tools and the prices are within 10-15% usually


If your gonna compare tools then compare Professional grade to Professional grade.

You Can't compare Snap-On to Harbor Freight

 

[79rustyk10]

I can pound a nail using a rock, I would rather use a hammer though.

I can tighted a bolt with brand X ratchet, but I would rather use a Snap On one... For a few reasons, The instant engagement and tighter tolerances, and the fact that I dont have to worry about smashing my knuckles because it breaks.

I dont work on cars for a living, but I use the hell out of my 3/8"drive SO ratchet and I plan on buying more as well.

I agree on wrench quality as was previously stated also, put a SO wrench next to say craftsman (which I have many of and use frequently) and the quality difference is huge. they make craftsman look like a POS, and they will last longer and have better contact on the bolt/nut than a craftsman will.

Many people get by just fine with less expensive tools, I have and still do, but Snap On is worth the money if you wrench every day.

I would rather buy something once and use the hell out of it for years than buy something that I have to replace frequently due to less than ideal materials and quality control.

 

[ssyork]

I would rather buy something once and use the hell out of it for years than buy something that I have to replace frequently due to less than ideal materials and quality control.

Hell yes, with anything really not just tools.

 

[yellowK20]

Hell yes, with anything really not just tools.

Yep, you end up saving money in the long run

 

[smalltruckbigcid]

I think that snapon understands pricing way better than most of their customers do. I've seen our dealer offer some smoking deals on sockets and other hardline products that are as good or better than expected.

So overpriced is a matter of opinion. Just like what quality level someone needs, why should I buy XXX when harbor freight will do the job just as well.

 

[yellowK20]

So overpriced is a matter of opinion. Just like what quality level someone needs, why should I buy XXX when harbor freight will do the job just as well.

its only "overpriced" to someone that is not experienced enough to see the quality difference.


Its like a pack of Ramen Noodles our Steak and taters, they're both food and they both fill you up.

Why should I spend more money on the Steak when the Ramen will do the job "just as good"

 

[sweetk30]

I didn't know "buffoon" was a hurtful phrase when generalizing a group who simply complain about one thing without reason.

Oh, and disagreeing with someone, while presenting opinions or facts is not being nasty.

my point is you get real nasty when someone says somthing against snap-on.

thats when you need to act like a grown up and buissness owner and nicly point out the real facts and post some prof of what you are trying to say.

if you were to act like this in my area i know a lot of guys that would NOT buy from your tool truck. as we had a guy like that and he didnt last to long.

just relax and dont bite off the head off someone who posts up or call them a nasty name.

 

[DrkZide]

its only "overpriced" to someone that is not experienced enough to see the quality difference.


Its like a pack of Ramen Noodles our Steak and taters, they're both food and they both fill you up.

Why should I spend more money on the Steak when the Ramen will do the job "just as good"

Except for the fact Ramen noodles have no nutritional value whatsoever. Probably one of the worst analogies I've seen.

Angus beef vs Kobe beef would've been better. Yea I'd love to eat Kobe but for what I do, Angus is fine.

 

[Confedneck]

I think that snapon understands pricing way better than most of their customers do. I've seen our dealer offer some smoking deals on sockets and other hardline products that are as good or better than expected.

So overpriced is a matter of opinion. Just like what quality level someone needs, why should I buy XXX when harbor freight will do the job just as well.

Hence the BOGO on deep metrics right now, or the 99$ 1/2" long ratchets last week, or the 99$ flip socket set on promo.

 

[yellowK20]

Except for the fact Ramen noodles have no nutritional value whatsoever. Probably one of the worst analogies I've seen.

Angus beef vs Kobe beef would've been better. Yea I'd love to eat Kobe but for what I do, Angus is fine.

You are totally missing the point



They are Both Food and "do the same job" just like how your saying cheap offshore tools are "just as good"


Your "nutritional value" Is the professional grade tools precise fit,superior materials, better service, strength, and longer life. Cheap tools lack those attributes thus the Ramen noodle Vs Steak. I think its a very good analogy





What do you do for a living?? I'd like to know what the tools of your trade/Profession are and if you use cheap stuff or professional grade.



quality costs we all know this,


I don't need a 966 Cat loader to plow my drive way when a shovel will do the same job. That doesn't make the Loader overpriced

 

[DrkZide]

I'm an Information Management Project Manager.

I can afford SnapOn but for the amount of wrenching I do, the price isn't worth it. I don't have "tools of the trade" in this field. You'd have better lucking finding a reference to my old 11B days.