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Wheel bearing went out and tore up everything

Morgan3

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I cannot get this hub assembly out. Anyone have any ideas? Took the first ring out. The second ring was tore all to pieces. The axle nut is lose and the washer is too.

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I've gotten a few off by putting the tire & rim back on leaving the lug nuts only on a few threads,and yanking back quickly on the tire--use it like a slide hammer..

If that fails you'll need a tool like this..3 jaw hub puller.jpgand if that fails,you'll need a cutting torch or sawsall,and have to destroy it to get it apart..
 
I've gotten a few off by putting the tire & rim back on leaving the lug nuts only on a few threads,and yanking back quickly on the tire--use it like a slide hammer..

If that fails you'll need a tool like this..View attachment 211119and if that fails,you'll need a cutting torch or sawsall,and have to destroy it to get it apart..
Is it supposed to just come out at this point?
 
I see the inner nut in your photo--that must be removed or nothing will budge!..but if both nuts and the washer with the pinholes are off and its just the spun bearings holding firm to the spindle,the tool or method I mentioned should get it apart,unless they welded together real good..
 
I see the inner nut in your photo--that must be removed or nothing will budge!..but if both nuts and the washer with the pinholes are off and its just the spun bearings holding firm to the spindle,the tool or method I mentioned should get it apart,unless they welded together real good..
My problem is that i cant remove the nut because it wont go over the splines. I only saw one nut with a washer behind it. Unless the second one is behind it, it probably got shredded up because there was alot of metal pieces. Im worried i'll have to cut everything off and replace the spindle and outer shaft.
 
Got another picture at a different angle to show what i'm working with a little better. Some pieces getting up to this point were torn to pieces so right now what i can see is the nut, washer behind that nut, and spindle. The nut and washer are both lose but wont fit over part of the spindle to pull out the whole thing.

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So you're saying the end of the spindle is mushrooomed out making it larger than the nut?

I see the splined end of the stub axle and the spindle nut, what is that cogged piece against the nut?

Do you have access to a cutting torch? If the spindle is mushroomed bad you may need to go in with a torch and cut the nut and outer bearing to be able to get the hub to come off. With the bearing failure you're probably already looking at a 50/50 chance the bearing hub is damaged (spun race, etc).
 
So you're saying the end of the spindle is mushrooomed out making it larger than the nut?

I see the splined end of the stub axle and the spindle nut, what is that cogged piece against the nut?

Do you have access to a cutting torch? If the spindle is mushroomed bad you may need to go in with a torch and cut the nut and outer bearing to be able to get the hub to come off. With the bearing failure you're probably already looking at a 50/50 chance the bearing hub is damaged (spun race, etc).
Yes the end of the spindle is mushroomed and is now bigger than the nut. So the nut and washer will not come off but they are loose. I already bought a new hub and now i'm pretty sure i need to get a spindle but i would like to avoid replacing the outer shaft. I have access to just about everything. I was thinking about cutting out as much of the hub as possible so i could see what the spindle is actually hung up. Already tried beating it loose with a hammer and prying it off.
 
You might be able to back the inner nut off as much as possible,then try drilling it with a 3/16 or so bit,right under the "notch" the special socket's lug goes into---you could do this on two opposing sides if need be--then you can probably use a small cold chisel to split the nut and spread it open enough to get it off the spindle..

Otherwise you'll end up using a sawsall to cut away the large splined portion of the hub so you can gain better access to the inner nut..

Someone else here just went through the same thing about a month ago, and posted about it...
 
You might be able to back the inner nut off as much as possible,then try drilling it with a 3/16 or so bit,right under the "notch" the special socket's lug goes into---you could do this on two opposing sides if need be--then you can probably use a small cold chisel to split the nut and spread it open enough to get it off the spindle..

Otherwise you'll end up using a sawsall to cut away the large splined portion of the hub so you can gain better access to the inner nut..

Someone else here just went through the same thing about a month ago, and posted about it...
Well im not worried about messing up the hub anymore as i already have another. I'm gonna try and search for the other thread you're talking about though. This is just so frustrating for me as i dont know exactly which parts of the hub got shredded up and which parts are just jammed up
 
This was the thread I thought of--poster ended up using an angle grinder to cut off the big splined part of the hub off..
Spindle Headache and Rotor Question | Page 3
I'll try that tonight. Thats what i was thinking of doing. Then i'm gonna have to just see what else i gotta cut off to get the rest of it all out. Hopefully i can have my truck back on the road by this weekend though
 
I'll try that tonight. Thats what i was thinking of doing. Then i'm gonna have to just see what else i gotta cut off to get the rest of it all out. Hopefully i can have my truck back on the road by this weekend though
Cut the spindle up some but still couldnt get anything apart. Decided to just cut the outer axle shaft since there was a bearing or something that had gotten forged to it so i couldnt get any axle nuts off. Had to replace that too cause the splines were bad. Couldnt reach all the way through with a cutting wheel though so i'm going back today with a sawzall. I'm about to reach the point that i dont want to mess with this thing anymore and take it to a shop and get rid of it as soon as its fixed.
 
Is it conceivable to chisel the heads off the spindle bolts from behind? This would get the whole hub/rotor/spindle assembly off the vehicle to work on and save the axle shaft. Although to mushroom the end of the spindle like that, maybe the shaft is already junk?

How about an end mill in a hand drill to cut off all the mushroomed part?

Is there a metal blade narrow enough to slice the nut on both sides?
 
Is it conceivable to chisel the heads off the spindle bolts from behind? This would get the whole hub/rotor/spindle assembly off the vehicle to work on and save the axle shaft. Although to mushroom the end of the spindle like that, maybe the shaft is already junk?

How about an end mill in a hand drill to cut off all the mushroomed part?

Is there a metal blade narrow enough to slice the nut on both sides?
There was no saving the axle shaft. Ended up taking a sawzall to it and got everything off. Now i gotta hope orielys will have every thing that goes into the hub because everything but the axle nuts were torn up.
 
There was no saving the axle shaft. Ended up taking a sawzall to it and got everything off. Now i gotta hope orielys will have every thing that goes into the hub because everything but the axle nuts were torn up.
Been trying to get parts for the whole inside of the hub. Does anyone have an exploded diagram of all the bearings that go into the hub? I'm a little confused as to what all is actually in the hub since everything was torn up in mine.
 
Been trying to get parts for the whole inside of the hub. Does anyone have an exploded diagram of all the bearings that go into the hub? I'm a little confused as to what all is actually in the hub since everything was torn up in mine.

Go to the link in my signature. Download the proper service manuals AND parts manual for the year you are working with. Doesn't get any better than that, except a youtube video.
 
I cannot get this hub assembly out. Anyone have any ideas? Took the first ring out. The second ring was tore all to pieces. The axle nut is lose and the washer is too.

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Truck is back on the road. Everything from the u joint at the axle shafts out is brand new. Problem i'm getting now is that something is getting too hot. I drove about 5 miles and saw a little bit of smoke coming from the hub. What could this be? When i put the inner wheel bearing in i didnt use a race because my buddy helping me said he thought that the new spindle came with a race inside it. Is that right? Could it be brake fluid i spilled heating up? Because i replace the caliper and pads and rotor since i was already there and spilled a good bit of fluid on them when i was bleeding it out. Or could i have tightened the axle nuts too much? I hand tightened them but i didnt put too much force onto them. I pretty much got them like i would get a valve cover bolt.
 
You usually need to tighten up the bearings pretty tight at first, like 50 ft lbs while spinning the wheel to the left. This ensures the bearing seats properly. Then you back off until it spins freely. I can't remember the exact process though but on my rear axle it's finger tight.

The smoke could be brake fluid or sometimes the rotors have a light oil coat to prevent surface rust while stored. If you got brake fluid on anything you definitely want to spray down the area with brake parts cleaner.
 
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