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why diesel?

you can make a hyabusa do 500hp now(youtube it). but I bet that motor wont push a chevelle down the track in 10sec. Doing the maxed out diesel thing is freakin sweet. but when I see a dodge with huge stacks blowing thick a$$ black sooty smoke pulling away from every single stoplight down town I have to wonder about the practicallity. I guess its just a preference thing as stated somewere in this post before. I love diesel fumes and the sound of one, but a blown bigblock pulling off the line is nice too:D
 
I kind of reread some of my posts and it kind of sounds like I much prefer gas motors but given the choice I would rather go to a tractor pull and watch the diesel pickups and smoker tractors:D than a drag race
 
I kind of reread some of my posts and it kind of sounds like I much prefer gas motors but given the choice I would rather go to a tractor pull and watch the diesel pickups and smoker tractors:D than a drag race

Oh man if you haven't seen the multi engine (5 or 6 350 chevy engines) tractor pulls you haven't seen anything.
I used to watch those on a british chanel, they had the big diesels too, but it was fun watching how they assemble the 5-6 engines together, I even saw a dual turbine tractor, they were from a boeing, that thing looked awesome, not to mention the wheelies it was doing pulling the sled.
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I love the diesel trucks these days and wouldn't mind owning one. The fact is they are so easy to modify to make more power due to the turbo(s) and they are pretty stout motors. I wish I could afford one but maybe down the road.

Lets face it though. The reason that they make the power is the turbo. Its easy to make power with any motor when you have forced induction..

For example, my small 2 liter, 4 cylinder, with a turbo makes 630hp uncorrected at the wheels so add 15% for the drivetrain loss to get the crank hp. I have to use E85 fuel but it gets the job done. HP per cube ratio blows most engines away.

Take a huge big block and put some turbo's on it and can have this through Nelson Racing Engines:
632 BBC Intercooled Twin Turbo will make 2700 hp and 2100 ft lbs on race gas, and 1500 hp 1300 ft lbs with 91 octane pump gas.
Granted its going to get horrible mileage but you get my point.
A SBC with a good efficient turbo and a stout block can make well over 1200hp on race gas or E85.

Now, take away the turbo and which engine would you rather have? Both diesel and 4 cylinder would be a SLOW and gutless. A V8 like an LS1 or LS6 when naturally aspirated would dominate.

Bottom line though is when you need to tow something and be reliable the turbo diesel the winner. Plus it can make serious torque and power with very few mods and will last.
 
Oh man if you haven't seen the multi engine (5 or 6 350 chevy engines) tractor pulls you haven't seen anything.
I used to watch those on a british chanel, they had the big diesels too, but it was fun watching how they assemble the 5-6 engines together, I even saw a dual turbine tractor, they were from a boeing, that thing looked awesome, not to mention the wheelies it was doing pulling the sled.
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Heck yah I have. I have been to quite a few tractor pulls in my life. I love the multi engine guys but my favorite are the crazy diesel pickups the semis and the diesel tractors.

Nothing like watching a Dodge make an awesome pull then blow both turbos off at the end of the pull. :haha:

Or a big smoker tractor break the block in half.

Yep I am a redneck for sure

Heck I have even pulled in a couple
 
I attended many tractor pulls in VT,when Gardner Stone had his dual Allison aircraft engined tractor dominating the curcuit....I loved watching the multiple engined ones like Sassy Massey and the Ferry Bros. tractors,nothing sounds sweeter than 5 BBC or mopars screaming at 9500 rpms doing full pulls!...the smoker diesels were something else too,I saw several inline 6's that had been converted to run a carb with alcohol fuel,and some stock ones with 3 turbos added to the--one made a full pull and the top half of the block busted clean off just below the pistons,and the head was hurled 30 feet away,it was awesome..

One guy,Woddy Woodward of NH,had an Alison engine on his tractor "the Animal"...I remember camping out in the 3 days of rain,rain,rain in VT when the track was a mud bog,and none of the tractors could make a full pull--he came up in the last heat the last day of the pulls,and gave it hell,it screamed at 6K all the way down the 300 foot track--took him a good 45 seconds to a minute to make it to the end,just barely creeping along--I saw the exhaust manifolds turn cherry red about halfway down the track,then you could see the heads start glowing,and then the entire block was oriange as a pumpkin--he kept the boots to it and made the full pull,winning the competition--as soon as it crossed the finish line,the front end of the motor grenaded in spectacular fashion,and the crowd gave him a standing ovation--it was GREAT!..

A month later at a fair in Keene NH,I met Woody again,he was in the pits working on his puller getting ready to enter it in the competition--I told him I'd never seen such an awesome display as his win in VT the month before--and I said "you must have bought another engine,huh?---he replied "No,its the same one!--I just had to replace the timing chain & gears and the front cover"--I was amazed that engine still ran at all!--he said "Eh,they made these beasts pretty rugged,in WWII the enemy would shoot the radiators out of the planes they used these engines in,and we'd have to just start climbing as high as we could,our planes could go higher than theirs--after the engines got so hit they seized,we'd open the bombay and go into a step dive,and that would cool them off enough to allow them to run again...those engines are polished mirror smooth inside,and take a LOt of abuse before they are junk!"...he shrugged his shoulders when I asked if it still had good power--"Eh,about the same as before I heated it up--now it only gets 45 psi of oil pressure instead of 60--oh well!"....

I'd love to have one of those 1710 CID Alison's in a truck!...the one Woddy ran had a home made intake made of 1/4" plate that looked like a uge triangle shaped funnel--he used FOUR Holley dominator carbs with the center two having 3/8" gas lines pointing down the venturis for an "accelerator pump"--he'd push a button if it started to big and an electric pump squirted gas right down the intake--those things can burn a gallon in 30 seconds to a minute like nothing!...:eek:...2500+ hp in stock form!..
 
"why diesel?"











why not?:D


I LOVE my diesel, its loud, obnoxious, i can make it get amazing fuel economy, or I can make it roll coal. it tows like a champ, and best part of all is that it sounds like a jet engine:waytogo:
 
I don't know... i'm a hotrodder.. i work on a ton of dizzles, respect the tech and capabilities.. 20 yrs ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion... diesels where heavy turds... early 90's saw HUGE power increases in dizzles..

but I'm a hotrodder at heart... 70's muscle cars with big horse gassers... at 20 yrs old, in 1985, i would have never considered a dizzle in just about anything... guess that doesn't die easy..

While I havent worked on near as many, and I may be 20 years younger than you, I couldnt agree more. To me the really hopped up diesels are just a my dick is bigger than yours kinda thing, and most of the guys with them are D-bags trying to drive them like a Corvette.

CANNOT argue with the towing capabilities, and the economy while doing so though.
 
A few things about these built up engines and why diesel engines are nice in general(IMHO):
1. It's easy to make power out of them. All of these crazy truck engines are turbo'd and most diesel engines are. Also, the only limit to the amount of boost diesels can run is what the engine can physically withstand.
2. Diesels typically last FOREVER. This is because the engines tend to be overbuilt in order to handle the high stresses (especially torque) placed on them. This is also why these built up engines can handle these amounts of power.
3. Some of these crazy engines (if built properly) can spin higher than you might think
4. Diesels are more efficent than gas engines
5. Diesel has better lubricating properties than gasoline
6. Diesels have no ignition components to worry about. About the closest thing you have is glow plugs and whatever goes along with them. Plus, you only need them to start the truck up.
7. Biodiesel can be made from d*** near anything organic and most diesels can run on it without any modification.
8. Diesels can run on other stuff besides diesel. If you ever get a chance read into the what the old M35 2 1/2 ton trucks with the multifuel (ok, technically not considerd a diesel engine, but its damn close) engine can run on. I'll give you a hint: If its at least somewhat flammable or combustible, it'll pretty much pop.
And yes, my truck does have a 6.2 so I'm kinda biased. Okay, I am biased.
 
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personally if im goin to buy a diesel it would be hooked to a trailor 95% of the time i own it, using it for what its for.

the one thing that makes me mad is when you see to cocky idiots out tryin to race their 9000lb trucks on the street, now i know any street racing is dangerous but when you have that much rolling mass and that much power on tap from whatever boxes you stacked your just being plane wreckless.

use the trucks for what they were built for and hook a trailor.

just my thoughts on it
 
When things where booming back in Bend, it seemed everyone had a lifted diesel crew cab. Usually I'd see some contractors wife taking their $50k rig to safeway. It be on 20s with chrome stacks in the bed.
 
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