HellsK10
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Look at this pic and tell me what's wrong with it...please. I get about half the turning radius of anything else.
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Why do I have no turning radius?
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HellsK10
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Here's another to help.
Looks like the Drag link ends are pretty worn...and that'll eat some turning radius (as well as make the steering a bit sloppy)
Rene
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odin
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HellsK10
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Yeah, those draglink ends are gonna be addressed soon. The problem is both left and right. I removed the tie rod and recentered the steering box cause the tie rod looked too long. I ended up screwing it in about 1-1/4". The ends on that need to be replaced too, but I'm wondering if there is a geometry problem here, pitman arm prob, something to that effect.
I see the problem, there is no front driveshaft and you are running a 4wd steering box 
, Just kidding
How is the frame where the box bolts on? I had a parts truck that the frame was so trashed (cracked) that the back of the box would move in and out approx 1" when you turned the steering.
I dont see a geometry problem myself but those ends do look pretty worn to me also.
, Just kidding How is the frame where the box bolts on? I had a parts truck that the frame was so trashed (cracked) that the back of the box would move in and out approx 1" when you turned the steering. I dont see a geometry problem myself but those ends do look pretty worn to me also.HellsK10
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I see the problem, there is no front driveshaft and you are running a 4wd steering box
I got a discount on my insurance for being 2wd, shhhh. J/K
I don't see why it's not working properly myself. I've gotta take a better look it tomorrow and see what's going on. I think I might actually just replace the draglink ends and maybe the whole tie rod. Might try to get a lowered pitman arm and rearrange the steering setup a bit...I dunno.
Thanks
The draglink appears to have to much angle on it. You want a slight downward angle but not much. How much lift is in the front? Looks like you have a 4" raised steering arm on the knuckle? You might need a dropped pitman arm or a dropped draglink along with the raised steering arm.
HellsK10
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9". It is a 4" raised steering arm, your right. I'll check out the draglink angle. But shouldn't it be parallel with the axle?
The draglink needs to be close to parallel with the ground. With 9" of lift you are going to need more than the 4" raised steering arm for correction. Since you are planning on new draglink ends you should buy the 4" dropped draglink and along with the steering arm you should be good then.
pennsylvaniaboy
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ahh just do a crossover haha
HellsK10
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I know, but that's some bank I ain't got yet. Maybe after I sell my Ramcharger...
YZEATER
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u bolts all tight? the steering stabilizer bound up/ bottoming out?
is it me or does that wheel ujoint look realy bad with rust.
possible frozen ujoint limiting turning . remove 1 end of the drag link. then jack up the front axle and have both wheels off the ground. try and cycle the wheels threw the turning arc. if stuff or frozen it might be ujoints or ball joints.
to me the drag link angle looks o.k. and if anything the end at the pitman arm on the box is a little bend in the 1 pic.
possible frozen ujoint limiting turning . remove 1 end of the drag link. then jack up the front axle and have both wheels off the ground. try and cycle the wheels threw the turning arc. if stuff or frozen it might be ujoints or ball joints.
to me the drag link angle looks o.k. and if anything the end at the pitman arm on the box is a little bend in the 1 pic.
There is NO WAY that with 9" of lift and only a 4" raised steering arm that the draglink angle could be "ok", well unless some of that lift was from a body lift.
I completly agree, but, that does not look like 9" of suspension to me, I could be wrong though. If I had to guess, I would say that it looks like 6" springs with a 3" body lift. If so aren't the raised arms "advertised" fo 4-6" of lift? I had only a raised arm on a 85 k5 I had with 6" springs and I had no negative issues on steering compared to stock. As far as the problem he is having I cant think of anything else that has not already been said.
HellsK10
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Am I wrong in thinking that the draglink is the red rod crossing from knuckle to knuckle? It's a tie rod that's going from the pitman arm off the sector shaft to the raised steering arm that connects via 3 studs on the driver's knuckle. They are 8" springs with 1" lift shackles, I have the receipt from the last owner (I got a steal on this thing! Just needs some work). How would the draglink, assuming that I'm not wrong in my understanding off these parts, have any other angle, lift or not, unless there was a varience in where it connects from one knuckle to the other?I completly agree, but, that does not look like 9" of suspension to me, I could be wrong though. If I had to guess, I would say that it looks like 6" springs with a 3" body lift. If so aren't the raised arms "advertised" fo 4-6" of lift? I had only a raised arm on a 85 k5 I had with 6" springs and I had no negative issues on steering compared to stock. As far as the problem he is having I cant think of anything else that has not already been said.
I took it out for a drive yesterday and it seems to turn pretty well to the left, but righthand turns are rediculous. The only thing holding me back from going crossover is the cost of doing the pass. flat top knuckle. Unfortunately mine is the weird shaped one. I thought all Chevy's with Dana's prior to '77 had flat tops on both sides....
If I put on a dropped pitman arm, is that what I'm gathering may correct this issue? I already need to rebuild my steering box cause the lower oil seal around the sector shaft is leaking, replace all u-joints with Spicers (cause I don't trust any others), check the u-joints in the axles, and replace the tie rod and draglink ends (possibly with QA1 uniballs). I'm willing to invest money in this thing, might take some time but it'll get it, cause I like it!
Tie-rod goes from knuckle to knuckle. The draglink goes from the sector shaft to the steering arm
YZEATER
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tierod is knuckle to knuckle. drag ling is from the box to the steering arm.
first, set the wheels straight, then disconnect the draglink from the axle. center the steering wheel by checking to make sure the pitarm arm is perpendicular to the frame. then adjust the draglink to join them ( pitman arm and steering arm together).
first, set the wheels straight, then disconnect the draglink from the axle. center the steering wheel by checking to make sure the pitarm arm is perpendicular to the frame. then adjust the draglink to join them ( pitman arm and steering arm together).
