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Winter driving a pre-runner

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So what are your best thoughts about driving a 2WD pre-runner style daily driver in the elements (winter, rain, ice, sleet etc.)

please keep in mind trying not to put 1000 pounds of weight in the back

I would probably assume this doesnt pertain to California people, cause snow is probably known to cause cancer....


any thoughts
 
Put a limited slip in the differential, get studded snow tires in a narrow size, and spring for a pair of chains if things get really bad. One thing I like to do is shovel the driveway into the bed of the truck, as extra weight really helps, and when it warms up, you don't have to remove anything other than some rocks and whatnot.

In snow and ice, a smaller contact patch puts more pressure on the ice, which results in increased grip.

And of all the things you do, drive slowly, easy on the gas, avoid spinning the tires, easy on the brakes, and make smooth steering adjustments.

My roommate has driven with no problems up here in a 2wd toyota taco, he has studded tires and loaded the bed with snow. And the roads here have been a virtual sheet of ice since November.
 
selectable locker / or traction device in the rear diff. open for most driving and lock it when needed only.

trust me been driving for years in snow conditions this is the best in my opinion . open diff then lock it if needed. as locked all time gets you in trouble to fast with no way out or self recovery.
 
skinny studded tires. Thats your best bet.

The LS or locker doesn't make a lick of difference in driving on an ice sheet on the road at speed ( at any speed) no limited slip or locker is going to help you stop faster.

I have driven with a full locker in my DD ( automatic locker not selectable) and it took some getting used to but it was no problem and really helped driving in deeper snow ( more than 18" ) on the road.

But for just mainly icy roads tires are whats going to help you most. Soft compound, massive siping, studding, and the narrowest one you can put on.

Weight in the back of the bed would be more important than a traction device in the diff unless you are regularly plowing through deep snow
 
I would probably assume this doesnt pertain to California people, cause snow is probably known to cause cancer....


any thoughts


You know what they say about people that assume.
I wish people had a clue about this state, as if we all live at the beach and it's 75* and sunny every day.

There's plenty of places here that would put most states to shame with their snowfall.

/rant off
 
You know what they say about people that assume.
I wish people had a clue about this state, as if we all live at the beach and it's 75* and sunny every day.

There's plenty of places here that would put most states to shame with their snowfall.

/rant off


Doesnt change the cancer comment though :D
 
well normally snowfall out here (not in the past couple years ) but an average over 100" of snow isnt abnormal

but I had a 2004 2WD Dodge Ram 1500 and thought about doing it again, but it wouldnt go anywhere in snow unless it was downhill with a tailwind and a dogsled.

I had a power trax "locker" in the back, I loved the fuel economy, and I had 7" of lift running 285/75/17 bridgestone Duelers.

I know those tires new couldnt get traction on dry pvement but they were on $400

anyways my sister lives in oregon and her husband has lived in california and as far as I have been told, unless your in the mountains, it either rains, is cloudy, or you have sun, very rare for snow...


You probably wonder why I dont just think about getting a 4wd. They are expensive to lift, and too much down time, (especially for ifs).... Ive thought of a 3500 Dually 4wd of the same year. but i dont have $20,000+ just to buy one.


all great advice.

what ya'll think about puting a skinny tire up front and a wide wide fat tire in the rear, with lower air pressure (thinking altered or gasser style)
 
Wider tire = less contact pressure on the ground = less traction. Reason most snow/winter tires are narrower.

If you can't run studs then you want narrow, sticky rubber, siping, and whatever other traction adding option you can have. I ran siped mud tires on my trucks and SUV's in Northern Michigan and they did me well. Siping and softer rubber helped them stick to the slick stuff and the mud tire tread helped dig through the snow...


...that said, they were all 4x4's. I pretty much lived in 4x4 for months at a time and there were times when I was plowing through snow drifts in a Geo Tracker with 6" of lift and 31's. Lots of snow and Michigan's lack of money so little to no good plowing.
Personally I'd rather have a plain jane 4x4 small pickup than a fancy lifted 2wd pickup in the winter. People may have laughed at my Tracker but that thing was a beast in the winter and never got me stuck.

I also ran two pickups with full time lockers in the rear and didn't have horrible experiences. Don't drive like an idiot and you won't go whizzing off into the drifts...
...that said again, having that front diff that can pull you straight if the road is truly "hockey rink sheet of ice slick" with no traction helps.

Two winters ago here at work we had a flash freeze and one of the guys stuck one of our 2wd F550 crewcabs with work beds. Dually tires and a lot of weight on the back. He was stuck bad. I pulled him out with my HMMWV but it was so slick even I had to go through the ditch half way to get any traction.

2wd plus winter = big issues. You can get around it some but you won't be 100% capable.
 
Must see pics of said prerunner. After driving an 01 silverado 2wd i had i said eff 2wd in the winter. I had a/t tires on it but i had to watch everywhere i went in the slick stuff and i also had 500# of sand in the bed. Drove the k5 winter before last and that was great, but i dont want it to rust so no more of that. I Got a little beater front wheel drive car this year. Saved on gas and easier to control. But idk how good they plow by you. Here they do a good job.
 
I dont reccomend shoveling snow from MA roads into your truck bed,unless you dont mind seeing it rot away by spring!!!...its saltier than the Atlantic and has nasty chemicals like calcium and other corrosive stuff in it that will eat steel away rapidly................................................................................................I have had a few 2wd chevy pickups and for the most part they sucked in ice and snow,with no weight in the bed...one that had a posi loved to do a 180 when it locked in under throttle suddenly,but I did like the posi better than the open diffs ,they do offer better chances of not getting stuck as easily,but you must feather the gas around corners or risk ending up facing the wrong way while your still going 30 mph!.............................................My dad drove old pickups for work that were only 2wd,at the gas company--he HAD to be able to get to the propane distribution plants when needed no matter the weather conditions,so they put studded snow tires on them,and used bar lug reinforced tire chains when the snow was deep,or it was icy,and they put a block of concrete that weighed about 1000 lbs in the back of them....................................................................................................I remember vividly taking a ride in a '66 C20 pickup he had set up that way with 292 & a 4 speed,one snowy day up a huge hill in my hometown about 1/2 mile high,we were in second gear passing all the cars that spun out and had slid backwards and landed up against the curbs or in the ditches--we never even spun a wheel all the way to the top!...................................but I much prefer 4wd in snow,my 4x4 is a worthess cripple in 2wd,especially with the plow on it and nothing in the bed to weigh it down...at every stop sign you'll sit there spinning ,praying it'll move and you wont get T-boned by oncoming cars!....
 
ok so its not quite in pre-runner form, but it has 1 ton 4" coil springs in the front with 3" knuckle lift and blocks in the rear. Power trax rear locker. 5 speed trans . 3.7L 6cyl
 
Really, sounds like you should stick to a 4x4. Seems the use you are looking for is why people have 4x4's for winter weather street driving.
 
If you wait until they plow and don't have a lead foot I think 2wd is fine most places in New England. Do you have places to be when it is snowing hard? 2wd reminds you that stopping will be as easy as going when your in deep snow. You also have to park smart places and go smart places. Anytime I have gotten stuck in the snow with a car has been from doing stupid things.

The reasons I could see to buy 2wd is slightly better gas mileage, and initial expense.

AWD is really way more manageable in snowy conditions anyways.
 
EXACTLY!

my 2wd Dodge Ram was great on fuel economy, was kinda fun to drive (5 speed manual), easy and cheap to lift.. i only had issues getting some places. Mainly it would be for work (late nights and early mornings)

Im just so sick of dealing with my Silverdo.. It is 4 wheel drive, repairing it, and keeping it maintained, I have never had so many problems...

I have wanted to go to a dodge dually or an older chevy. Problem is, while i will be getting into a great paying job, I will not pay $50k for a truck, nor will I pay $20k for a used one.. and sadly there wont be any time to buy and repair one (working monday night through saturday after noon)..... So it seems logical since this truck never let me down before

(this purchase will be in less then 6 months), if there are better options id be open to hearing them (I wont do IFS 4wd again)
 
Dont take this in a bad way, but whats the point of lifting a 2wd? I can see lowering but dont understand lifting unless its just for looks or your actually pre running, but doubt it with the 6cyl. Its only hurting fuel economy imo :dunno:
 
I don't know what fuel economy you will have by going to a heavy duty truck unless you get a diesel, but you said you didn't want to spend alot.

And like deuling said lifting it with big tires will lose your economy and power.
 
People have this missconception that if it snows, you have to have 4x4. I drove around a 2wd S10 for 3 winters with bald tires and an open diff. How did I do it? I drove it smart. Never got stuck when I thought about how I was going to approach a stop sign, park, turn around, or whatever.

Here's a method I came up with for the few times I did get stuck: Floor it, shift to second, floor it, shift to third and floor it. That 4cyl got that right rear burning pretty good until it powered its way through the snow to pavement and boom you take off like a rocket*. :deal:

*Disclaimer, this was a beater truck that and I didn't care about it. Also when you do this make sure there's nothing in front of you...
 
My fuel economy didnt suffer... its a 2wd, doesnt have binding axles or differentials, or transfercases to change angles.

if anything my mileage went down 1mpg..

I admit the power wasnt great, but getting 20+mpg even with a lift is pretty good..

looks yea; though you couldnt tell it was a 2wd untill you looked. It just looked like a IFS 4WD..

it would probably cost me less to have the 2wd, lift it, and get good tires, or get an older chevy and lift it then to continue to fix my current ride
 
also why not get a set of boggers for the rear for winter or chains? How about those Mat trax? even though there not cost effective
 
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