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Muddytazz

Muddytazz

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You\'ve gotta see this.......

Check out this D44 on ebay. You've gotta read the description they put, and the price /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif
 
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Axles have been criogenticly frozen by machine shop to increase strength and durability.

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WTF!? /forums/images/graemlins/doah.gif
 
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I looked at it again and saw that it's in OK. Okies do stupid poop like this all the time...it's the norm... /forums/images/graemlins/deal.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Here is the ebay item number if you want for some ODD reason the link doesn't work

2477246034
 
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the new CTM shafts are cryogenically frozen, supposed to do something to the molecules in the metal to make it more dense, and in turn stronger. Who knows...?
 
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Yeah, but a machine shop doing it? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif
 
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A new thing the folks at CTM are working with. Supposed to line the molecules up straighter for more strength and fewer surface irregularities.

If he gets a 1000 for that, I will start collecting them in all the scrap yards and undercutting his price /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif /forums/images/graemlins/thinking.gif How does 800 sound??

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Are you kidding me???? /forums/images/graemlins/histerical.gif Thats close to twice what a bought my stock dana 60 for and I bet its still stronger than this "cryogenticlly frozen" dana 44. But hey, I could be wrong.
 
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cryotreating axles makes the molecules line up and organize themselves. when the metal contracts from the extreme cold, it forces the molecules into alignment. when the axles are heated back up to room temperature, the axles expand, but the molecules stay aligned/organized, so there are no stress risers or imperfections in the metal.

but damn, thats more than i payed for my ford D60 /forums/images/graemlins/yikes.gif
 
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actually cryogenics is a bad idea. CTMs are heat treated, cryoed then heat treated again. Good process, just cryoing is a bad idea. WHenever those shafts bust they will turn into little shards of metal flakes that will ruin everything in a housing.
 
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tracktion

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Checkout his other auction
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33728&item=2477242881

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He really goes a long way with his descriptions. No way I would bid that much money with such a stupid description. /forums/images/graemlins/1zhelp.gif
 
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Yeah, but a machine shop doing it? /forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

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not trying to high jack, but liquid nitrogen can be supplied by a welding (gas) supplier, we have tanks of liquid nitrogen here at work and we are a pickle factory.
 
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i know what he was stating, that a machine shop was probably feeding him a line, but I was just stating that it isn't impossible to get some liquid nitrogen to freeze something. we use it to displace oxygen in plastic containers of pickles, just like a lot of your juice and soda manufac. do, it also helps keep the bottle from collapsing when pressure is applied. /forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif
 
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Cryo treating steel is new to the offroad world but has done well so far. It is a waste of money without quality steel base though. High dollar chromo's and custom cold forged are the most common ones. A gut on pirate does the new spicer life series. The cryo pocess lines up the molecules better therefore reducing the number and exageration of stress risers. This alone is not much stronger but heat treating (locking the molecules in place) a molecularly smooth piece of steel is a great way to gain a huge amount of strength. Cryo treat is a careful process that needs constan temp monitoring the idea is not really cold it is proper chilling.

Enough science crap $1000 for a stock D44 that probably sat in some shops freezer for a day is outrageous. Doesn't even say what bolt pattern, pumpkin side, or flat tops. Any body that is in tune with cryo should at leasy know what a flat top is. That guy is "crazy go nuts"
 
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not trying to high jack, but liquid nitrogen can be supplied by a welding (gas) supplier, we have tanks of liquid nitrogen here at work and we are a pickle factory.

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Is it the same guy selling the D44 and the "D66" ? They both spelled traction wrong and only had a few words about the axles /forums/images/graemlins/shame.gif
 
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