Spare tcase would probably only be brought to Moab, Koh and kept at home.
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1982 C/K 6.0L Caitlyn Mall Crawler (Interior time)
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Overlanding shouldn't require a spare t-case...
The idea behind overlanding is drive your chit all over the place, then drive it home...
That means capable rig, but not taking the hardest lines and not running the hardest trails. You want to get there and get back. Over several days, with lots of pictures and fun times. Not spending the whole time swapping a t-case on the trail.
The idea behind overlanding is drive your chit all over the place, then drive it home...
That means capable rig, but not taking the hardest lines and not running the hardest trails. You want to get there and get back. Over several days, with lots of pictures and fun times. Not spending the whole time swapping a t-case on the trail.
The following statement is stuck in my brain when I'm far from home having fun in my truck...
Driving with a little self-preservation goes a long way.
Yes I agree with you guys, read the above post. 
Yes I agree with you guys, read the above post.
The statement I put up there is some what tongue-in-cheek, but I keep that in mind when I'm out to allow me to make it home. You don't have to whip your rig like a rented mule to prove anything to anybody. Taking a spare t-case is only required if you have it in your head to beat on it hard enough to actually break it. Make sure you got a good skidplate, drive with a little bit of caution and if it looks or feels like you might be getting in too deep, stop. Take a new line, take the hook or take a bypass if possible. There is no shame in backing off to save your ride.
I'm making plans to go to BB18 and even though I'm going to be carrying my home away from home on the back of my Blazer it won't keep me from taking in the trails. No I won't be taking on the really hard stuff, but mid-level stuff for sure. I won't be carrying a spare t-case with me.
Out on the trails I drive very cautious. The few that have seen my truck can relate to that. On the street it's no limits.
It seems like "on the street" is where your issues arise. Could be the "no limits" philosophy.
After that, my approach was to just finish the trail. I would just take on the lines and obstacles I felt most comfortable with. I completed all the trails I ran and ran all the trails I wanted. Never had a failure again. We made 12 trips to Moab and drove the trail rig there and back for 9 of those, the other 3 times we trailered the K5. A lot of it is also making sure the vehicle is ready to go before hand.
At one point I carried a lot of spares but as time when on, I started to whittle down what I carried. I never carried a tcase tho.
My point with the very first sentence is that you may need to tone it down on the pavement at Blazer Bash as well.
This has always been my philosophy with Blazer Bash. The first year we went, 2005, I got carried away trying to climb a ledge at the beginning of Gold Bar Rim and stripped the teeth off a ring & pinion. This was a period of time when I didn't know much about my truck so I had to pay to get it fixed in Moab. That was an expensive lesson.
After that, my approach was to just finish the trail. I would just take on the lines and obstacles I felt most comfortable with. I completed all the trails I ran and ran all the trails I wanted. Never had a failure again. We made 12 trips to Moab and drove the trail rig there and back for 9 of those, the other 3 times we trailered the K5. A lot of it is also making sure the vehicle is ready to go before hand.
At one point I carried a lot of spares but as time when on, I started to whittle down what I carried. I never carried a tcase tho.
My point with the very first sentence is that you may need to tone it down on the pavement at Blazer Bash as well.
I think it's because I know I can get it home if it breaks on the street. I don't have anyone to go on a trail with me that is into the same trails. I don't want to go on a trail alone so I enjoy the truck on the street and it's my playground. At blazer bash I don't want to be that guy so I go really easy and to be honest I get scared during BB.
Dirt roads, exploring and being "dependable" is really what I built the truck for.
Dirt roads, exploring and being "dependable" is really what I built the truck for.
I need that very statement written on my dash. Or in the center of my steering wheel. Or just covering up the tachometer.The following statement is stuck in my brain when I'm far from home having fun in my truck...
Driving with a little self-preservation goes a long way.
I chock this up to bad parts, I don’t think there is a fundamental flaw with the 241 and I do think it can handle it if it doesn’t already have a bunch of miles and is worn out. The only other options are a doubler 203/205 or an atlas or similar and I would err on the side of iron..
I beat the hell out of my truck and god knows banging gears in a manual is pretty hard on drivetrain.. and our trucks are not that different and I drive mine everywhere and everyday.. I think you had a bunk case to begin with.. I also think that your not being overly abusive.. it’s got the hardware to deal with this.. and it’s not like you are neutral dropping this thing at 5k?? Doing burnouts and being a hoon it’s any worse than taking off hard with a loaded trailer.. maybe I am wrong but time will tell.. I vote fix it and put another stock case in with a good chain and bearings..
I beat the hell out of my truck and god knows banging gears in a manual is pretty hard on drivetrain.. and our trucks are not that different and I drive mine everywhere and everyday.. I think you had a bunk case to begin with.. I also think that your not being overly abusive.. it’s got the hardware to deal with this.. and it’s not like you are neutral dropping this thing at 5k?? Doing burnouts and being a hoon it’s any worse than taking off hard with a loaded trailer.. maybe I am wrong but time will tell.. I vote fix it and put another stock case in with a good chain and bearings..
It will be fixed for sure, a 208 landed in my lap and it will get me by then be my spare case.
Just my .02
I ran a 231/241 for years and the 241 held up great. The only problem I had was when my linkage came off and strategically placed itself in the CV on my front driveshaft at 25-30mph which forced it into low range. The only thing it needed after that was synchros. I came across a Chevy 241 and decided to use it because I needed a longer front driveshaft and the Chevy case has a flange that sticks out a few inches and took care of the driveshaft issue. So the moral of the story is... don’t be afraid of 241s. Mine was punished mercilessly and held up. I’m with @sreidmx... I’d be willing to bet there was a defect of some sort. I don’t know how to get ahold of him anymore but I would talk to Duffy at DD machine. He knows his stuff.
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This was a 231/241 box4rocks
I ran a 231/241 for years and the 241 held up great. The only problem I had was when my linkage came off and strategically placed itself in the CV on my front driveshaft at 25-30mph which forced it into low range. The only thing it needed after that was synchros. I came across a Chevy 241 and decided to use it because I needed a longer front driveshaft and the Chevy case has a flange that sticks out a few inches and took care of the driveshaft issue. So the moral of the story is... don’t be afraid of 241s. Mine was punished mercilessly and held up. I’m with @sreidmx... I’d be willing to bet there was a defect of some sort. I don’t know how to get ahold of him anymore but I would talk to Duffy at DD machine. He knows his stuff.
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This was a 231/241 box4rocks
My 241 has held up for 11 years. But I am so gentle on it. I never pound it into 4wd at 35mph as I head for a sand hill. Then slap it out as I roll over the other side. I'm never on the throttle spinning tires in low range with the truck in a location it wasn't designed to be in.
Just my $0.02. But my wife says I don't have any sense.
Just my $0.02. But my wife says I don't have any sense.
Amen.
When I broke the transfer case out of my truck, the only thing that I could see wrong with it is that it cracked one of the bolt ears off of the case. I probably could have thrown it back in and run it. I like my 241.
Bad old parts for sure is why it broke.
transfer cases weren't designed for 
Depends on which case your talking about? In which case this case wasn’t in 4by4transfer cases weren't designed for
Still broken. 
Trying to find a used case and just rebuild that. Seems like a better solution then mine it's to the point where it isn't going to just need a rebuild kit and chain. I know beating a dead horse but...
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