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1991 v3500 - big dumb lifted forever truck

The DHD is definitely the better of the two from dodge but I’d lose the gm speed signal.
I should be able to put a gm tone ring and output housing on a dodge back case half and call it a day.
just gotta sell all my chit and buy one.
 
The DHD is definitely the better of the two from dodge but I’d lose the gm speed signal.
I should be able to put a gm tone ring and output housing on a dodge back case half and call it a day.
just gotta sell all my chit and buy one.
I didn’t think of your V-3500 being a 90/91 and related speedometer.

Sell that other stuff and post up some pics of the GM tone ring on the Dodge case - great stuff !
 
I don't think an Atlas is as weak as you guys are making them out to be. Plenty of them in Ultra4 racers and KOH racers and east coast bouncers.
 
The DHD is definitely the better of the two from dodge but I’d lose the gm speed signal.
I should be able to put a gm tone ring and output housing on a dodge back case half and call it a day.
just gotta sell all my chit and buy one.
Im guessing you cant get those to use a 32 spline input can you? I see plenty of dhd 241’s for fairly cheap, but last i looked i didnt think a 32 spline was possible. (Thinking for my application)
 
Yeah lightweight racers
Agreed, although those KOH rigs are extremely powerful they are also extremely light weight.

Most race oriented stuff gets away with “smaller” equipment - examples like a race converter in a 900HP drag car may be 8” but a 300HP 3/4-Ton truck may require a 12” to 14” , same for clutch disc size 9” to 10” in powerful race car applications but a 200HP truck requires a 12” or 13” clutch setup, and finally a race car can get away a 9” ring gear while 3/4-Ton trucks are now coming with almost 12” ring gears.

It’s all about the application, power being applied, service factors and weight involved when choosing components.
 
Im guessing you cant get those to use a 32 spline input can you? I see plenty of dhd 241’s for fairly cheap, but last i looked i didnt think a 32 spline was possible. (Thinking for my application)
It might be possible to source an input from other NVG cases with the same 2.72:1 reduction gear set - the angle/pitch of the teeth changed at some point from older to newer models so that’s something to be aware of but finding out if the 241’s, 261’s and 271’s ( and all the electronic shift variations ) are input swap compatible might get you a GM 32-splined input in a cool Dodge case.
Worth look’n into ?
 
Very simple though!

demanding do it GIF
 
The rest of the drivetrain on that truck deserves, make that DEMANDS, a part like that !

Sup’d up 6BT, big-ass 6-spd, possibly the ultimate in adaptation and range box, cool Ford 205 that addresses your rear output needs and gives options and to wrap it all up with a hairy-low-swing’n DANA 80


I’ve gotta Ford round pattern NP-205 if ya can’t find one for sale.

Do it - please do it !
 
The rest of the drivetrain on that truck deserves, make that DEMANDS, a part like that !

Sup’d up 6BT, big-ass 6-spd, possibly the ultimate in adaptation and range box, cool Ford 205 that addresses your rear output needs and gives options and to wrap it all up with a hairy-low-swing’n DANA 80


I’ve gotta Ford round pattern NP-205 if ya can’t find one for sale.

Do it - please do it !
Yea but only a 60 front? I vote he saves the ford 60 he built for the burb and cuts the C’s on 70 and rotates pinion up a couple degrees, and then uses that mag box for extra front driveshaft length. That seems like path of least resistance, and badass.
 
Yea but only a 60 front? I vote he saves the ford 60 he built for the burb and cuts the C’s on 70 and rotates pinion up a couple degrees, and then uses that mag box for extra front driveshaft length. That seems like path of least resistance, and badass.
He could just empty the bank account and get a GM Top Kick/Kodiak or Ford high-pinion D70-F H.D. housing and put the inner C’s on it.
This way the D70 cool factor is maxed out and the chunk could be placed so that the exhaust down pipe can be as big as wanted.
 
He could just empty the bank account and get a GM Top Kick/Kodiak or Ford high-pinion D70-F H.D. housing and put the inner C’s on it.
This way the D70 cool factor is maxed out and the chunk could be placed so that the exhaust down pipe can be as big as wanted.
I was trying to be budget conscious lol. But i agree, he needs proper exhaust!

Other option is to switch his 70 to driver drop and rotate Cs.

can you just flip the axle upside down and cut/rotate the Cs right side up? Guessing there would probably be some lubrication issues since pumpkin is upside down. If that would work that would save bunch of work and then have a high pinion! Lol
 
I was trying to be budget conscious lol. But i agree, he needs proper exhaust!

Other option is to switch his 70 to driver drop and rotate Cs.

can you just flip the axle upside down and cut/rotate the Cs right side up? Guessing there would probably be some lubrication issues since pumpkin is upside down. If that would work that would save bunch of work and then have a high pinion! Lol
Unfortunately flipping a low-pinion housing upside down does not work - it would spin the axle shafts in the opposite direction because it’s still getting input from the front driveshaft that’s being driven off of the transfer case counter gear/driven gear front output setup.
Those old Rockwell T-221 cases had an option of using the counter gear front output for when the NEAPCO conversions just flipped those Eaton chunks upside down but that ain’t happening with a NP case of any kind.
 

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