beags86
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Which 3500? The inline 5 or the v6
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2001 Jeep Cherokee, no longer cheapbeater
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Which 3500? The inline 5 or the v6
The V6. There's a generation of 3.5L and 3.9L GM cars that are becoming old and cheap.
Case in point:
https://greenbay.craigslist.org/pts/d/impala-engine/6677929671.html
beags86
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My 06 Impala is a 3.9
I drove the 3.5 before I drove the 3.9 pretty much a night and day difference.
If you were to do anything in my opinion hold out for the 3.9 the .4 really does make a difference. And basically no difference in fuel economy. I am rarely nice to the work beater and I still pull down 26-28 mpg.
These days the daily fuel mileage is fantastic! Ever since I got a work truck.
I would have used the 3.9 in my stude had a complete running car with the sc3.8 not fell in my lap. In fact the 3.6 was my first choice followed by the 3.9.... then I followed in a long distance third was the sc3.8
And go figure, what do I end up with.. luckily they are the same engine family so I can always pull the 3.8 for a twin turbo 3.6 they are putting In The caddy vsport these days....
beags86
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Why are you not inpressed with them?
I had a 3700 in my canyon. I liked it.
And as I mentioned in the previous post I have a work truck with a 3500 now. So I am driving one everyday.... Tell me why your not impressed?
Sorry Ethan I assuming you meant the in-line 3.5 not the V6
Meh. I haven't picked an engine line yet. I'm only 90% sure of the platform I want. I hafta finish selling off the diesel stuff before I get sucked into that rabbit hole.
For anyone else I'd apologize for the derailment. But for you we're planting the seeds of future engine swaps.
Meh. I haven't picked an engine line yet. I'm only 90% sure of the platform I want. I hafta finish selling off the diesel stuff before I get sucked into that rabbit hole.
For anyone else I'd apologize for the derailment. But for you we're planting the seeds of future engine swaps.
I’m out of town tonight anyways so it’s not like this thread is getting any forward movement anyways.
I did find out with some research that my Ramsey winch is old, but still produced under a different model name and is $1250 new. So that makes me happy
beags86
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Meh. I haven't picked an engine line yet. I'm only 90% sure of the platform I want. I hafta finish selling off the diesel stuff before I get sucked into that rabbit hole.
For anyone else I'd apologize for the derailment. But for you we're planting the seeds of future engine swaps.
What's the project?
No big issues, and I have no real experience with them. I'm chasing fuel mileage, as always, and the trail blazers are as bad as Cherokees by that metric (13MPG in town? Please. The 5.3L Trailblazer makes more power and uses less fuel than the 6-banger model). Two of CK5's members have had choice words to say about how hard the engine is to work on (though some of that is due to the platform). And, as mentioned, there's the goofy bell housing with its oddball starter placement, limiting tranny options. If a donor truck dropped into my lap it wouldn't be so bad. But I've yet to hear any glowing reports, either.
So...sell me on the Atlas engines. What's so great about 'em?
My 06 Impala is a 3.9
I drove the 3.5 before I drove the 3.9 pretty much a night and day difference.
If you were to do anything in my opinion hold out for the 3.9 the .4 really does make a difference. And basically no difference in fuel economy. I am rarely nice to the work beater and I still pull down 26-28 mpg.
These days the daily fuel mileage is fantastic! Ever since I got a work truck.
I would have used the 3.9 in my stude had a complete running car with the sc3.8 not fell in my lap. In fact the 3.6 was my first choice followed by the 3.9.... then I followed in a long distance third was the sc3.8
And go figure, what do I end up with.. luckily they are the same engine family so I can always pull the 3.8 for a twin turbo 3.6 they are putting In The caddy vsport these days....
Noted. The 60-degree platform is looking pretty easy right now. Donor cars are everywhere, I'd just need to track down a RWD tranny with the metric bell housing.
It's still imaginary. I need to sell the diesel stuff first or I'll keep getting distracted.
I want an engine swap (for the fun of it), and I like wagons. I think a Roadmaster/Caprice wagon would make a fun project.
But I'm still gathering ideas. It's hard to pare the list down, it keeps growing!
beags86
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No big issues, and I have no real experience with them. I'm chasing fuel mileage, as always, and the trail blazers are as bad as Cherokees by that metric (13MPG in town? Please. The 5.3L Trailblazer makes more power and uses less fuel than the 6-banger model). Two of CK5's members have had choice words to say about how hard the engine is to work on (though some of that is due to the platform). And, as mentioned, there's the goofy bell housing with its oddball starter placement, limiting tranny options. If a donor truck dropped into my lap it wouldn't be so bad. But I've yet to hear any glowing reports, either.
So...sell me on the Atlas engines. What's so great about 'em?
Well, I just like how smooth the powerband is. And how smooth running they are.
But that's an Inline for ya.
I would mess around with a 4.2 in some sort of project. Not as my first choice probably. But I would if I fell Into one that fit my needs at the time.
I guess otherwise I don't have much to say about them as I never had to do anything other then basic routine maintenance. Which In guess is a selling point I itself. In my experience I never had a breakdown.
I probably have 65,000 miles on them with my old canyon and current work truck.
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And question...why do I keep reading that the modern GM 3800 is the same 90-degree configuration as the old Buick 3.8L engine? It's downright confusing. Some folks even claim they've been making the same engine for 50 years. And yet it has changed several times.
Stupid internets.
Stupid internets.
beags86
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Noted. The 60-degree platform is looking pretty easy right now. Donor cars are everywhere, I'd just need to track down a RWD tranny with the metric bell housing.
I already told you. Camaro/firebird 3.8 transmission.
Auto or manual.
I gotta a 4L60E from a Camaro for the studebaker.
Stick would have been more fun, but my wife wants to be able to drive the car without a manual. So I guess it is what it is.
beags86
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And question...why do I keep reading that the modern GM 3800 is the same 90-degree configuration as the old Buick 3.8L engine? It's downright confusing. Some folks even claim they've been making the same engine for 50 years. And yet it has changed several times.
Stupid internets.
It's not. It's quite a bit different then the old fireball 225.
But it is a 90 degree v6 with a 60 degree bellhousing bolt pattern. ( Metric as you said)
The old rwd 3800s had a bop bell on the back.
The fwd use the metric
Yeah, I know that. James pointed out the Jeep tranny, too. For a 4L60E, can I just grab a camaro bell housing, or do I need the whole tranny?
Which leads to the question...how is a 60-degree 3.9 in the same family as a 90-degree 3.8?
I'm inclined to think the 60-degree engine would free up engine bay space. Otherwise I don't see much difference between them (for my purpose).
Maybe I need to think about it some more?
https://greenbay.craigslist.org/cto/d/2005-chevy-trailblazer/6693757602.html
beags86
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they're not, I guess I shouldn't have said that. what I meant was that if once I have the 60 degree transmission bell...
I could swap without changing that.
