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52" spring swap complete... my comments pics added 6/2

RedBrute

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First off, many Thanks to Mikeyd05 for the compilation of all the threads dealing with this subject. I did this swap over the memorial day weekend and have driven the blazer since monday. My reason for this was twofold... ride quality and improved flex.
I had been running 3"TuffCountry EZRide springs up front with ORD HD shackles and greaseable bushings for about 8 years now. The ride was better than stock but still too stiff and off road it didn't flex as well as I had hoped. My installation is different from most in that I left the axle in the "stock" position.
I did this by moving the front spring hanger forward directly under the body mount lining up the 2 forward most holes on the mount and the 2 forward most holes on the hanger first and redrilling the other mount/frame holes and using grade 8 hardware.
For the spring shackle I left the mount in the stock position and fabricated new shackles with a bolt spacing of 5.250" to keep the pinion angle as close to stock as possible. (with the spring flexed flat against the overload, the rear spring eye does not touch the frame but is darn awful close). I also replaced the stock front upper shackle hanger with the DIY4X FUSH kit ( awesome quality and dead on bolt in) and added ORD greasable bushing to the front.
So basically I kept the axle location front to rear stock and moved the front hanger forward 2 inches and the longer shackle in the back took care of the additional 2" length to the rear. The shackle angle with the 3" TC springs was straight up and down, now the lower portion of the shackle is 2" back. I don't know what angle that works out to be but in reading the threads on here dealing with favorable shackle, it appears to be MUCH better than straight up and down. Ride quality is 100% better.
I have driven this Blazer to work over the same potholed roads for years and I find myself anticipating bumps that I simply don't feel now. The springs were my original rear springs, just wirebrushed, POR15'ed, new bushings and new anti/friction pads at the ends of the springs. I gained 1.125" of lift so the blazer sits a bit high in the front with 4" TC EZrides in the back. (yes I had 3" in front and 4" in back to eliminate the saggy butt look).
I have driven this Blazer for 8 years with no swaybar and don't feel it is necesary, but then I drive it like what it is... a heavy short wheelbase lifted truck not a friggin sports car. I also have ORD's crossover steering. (last summers mod) and run Rancho RS5000 shocks. The next mod will be longer shocks and possibly longer bumpstops to take full advantage of the flex/droop (as the budget allows).

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Hows the front driveshaft at full droop? Any binding? I'm hoping to do what you did and keep the axle in a mostly "stock" location and not have to get another shaft. I was also planning on keeping the shackle mount in the stock location so I'm glad to hear that works! :D
Pics??

EDIT: and by putting it directly under the body mount, has your axle moved back any? And know that I read it again, maybe I dont understand. If its directly under the body mount, do you not have the hanger there anymore?
Also how are brakelines, shocks, etc?
 
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Yep, I knew I'd forget a detail... the drive shaft at full "droop" will be a problem WHEN I go to longer shocks. Right now the shocks are the limiter. Not ideal but as I stated I'll deal with this as funds allow. Longer shocks will require a limiting strap or big$$$$ driveshaft mods. I'll make up my mind as time goes on. Pics.... I'm pretty introweb challenged but I'll try this weekend
 
Where in the southern tier are you?? You say you took the rears off your truck, how many leaves all together are there?? Want to do this to my 92 when I get it....
 
RedBrute said:
First off, many Thanks to Mikeyd05 for the compilation of all the threads dealing with this subject. I did this swap over the memorial day weekend and have driven the blazer since Monday. My reason for this was twofold... ride quality and improved flex. I had been running 3"TuffCountry EZRide springs up front with ORD HD shackles and grease-able bushings for about 8 years now. The ride was better than stock but still too stiff and off road it didn't flex as well as I had hoped.

My installation is different from most in that I left the axle in the "stock" position. I did this by moving the front spring hanger forward directly under the body mount lining up the 2 forward most holes on the mount and the 2 forward most holes on the hanger first and re-drilling the other mount/frame holes and using grade 8 hardware.

For the spring shackle I left the mount in the stock position and fabricated new shackles with a bolt spacing of 5.250" to keep the pinion angle as close to stock as possible. (with the spring flexed flat against the overload, the rear spring eye does not touch the frame but is darn awful close). I also replaced the stock front upper shackle hanger with the DIY4X FUSH kit ( awesome quality and dead on bolt in) and added ORD greasable bushing to the front.

So basically I kept the axle location front to rear stock and moved the front hanger forward 2 inches and the longer shackle in the back took care of the additional 2" length to the rear. The shackle angle with the 3" TC springs was straight up and down, now the lower portion of the shackle is 2" back. I don't know what angle that works out to be but in reading the threads on here dealing with favorable shackle, it appears to be MUCH better than straight up and down.

Ride quality is 100% better. I have driven this Blazer to work over the same potholed roads for years and I find myself anticipating bumps that I simply don't feel now. The springs were my original rear springs, just wire brushed, POR15'ed, new bushings and new anti/friction pads at the ends of the springs. I gained 1.125" of lift so the blazer sits a bit high in the front with 4" TC EZrides in the back. (yes I had 3" in front and 4" in back to eliminate the saggy butt look).

I have driven this Blazer for 8 years with no sway bar and don't feel it is necessary, but then I drive it like what it is... a heavy short wheelbase lifted truck not a friggin sports car. I also have ORD's crossover steering. (last summers mod) and run Rancho RS5000 shocks. The next mod will be longer shocks and possibly longer bump stops to take full advantage of the flex/droop (as the budget allows).

There.

Fixed it for you.

Paragraphs in the future, O.K. :D ?!
 
did you check the clearance between the engine crossmember and the draglink? you probably have the bent draglink, but it still might be close.
 
Yes I have the bent drag link. Bump stops are required to prevent contact between link and xmember until a better xmember is built. (next summer unless I find time this year).
 
Five leaves total, four plus the "overload". I'm in Apalachin. I'll bet we've walked passed each other at Gary's Upullit...Thats where my parts and pieces come from mostly. I'm guessing you get your stuff there too?
 
For the edit question. The axle is maybe 1/4" forward but for basically in stock location. The stock hanger is utilized, I guess I have to get a pic or two to help explain. Brake lines are napa #38622 and 38623, plenty of length.

The shocks I can't find a Rancho # for, but are for a 4" lift.

As I said, they have to go in favor of a longer shock and probably a limiting strap. I still need to check the cardan joint on front shaft for bind and grind as required.
Thats what I like about this whole CK5 thing... one mod leads to more.
 
RedBrute said:
Five leaves total, four plus the "overload". I'm in Apalachin. I'll bet we've walked passed each other at Gary's Upullit...Thats where my parts and pieces come from mostly. I'm guessing you get your stuff there too?

Gary's??? What's that??? I go to Lantz's, they have all the good stuff. I can't say bad things bout Gary's, I got a Dodge D60 front for $85. Buddy got one for $35, had a friend that worked the counter. I'd like to see some pics, sure others here would too. I have a 92 Blazer that I'm gonna SAS, trying to keep it low, enough to clear wide 35s. I had 4" springs of some brand in the 89 when I first put it on the road, and they were stiff as he!!. I tried 52s, but with the 454 it flattened the springs right out.

I dated a girl that lived right behind the McDonald's off the exit, used to know people down there, but don't go that way anymore....
 
Link didn't work. Might have to set up an account at a photo sharing thingy...I have Webshots, seems to be OK. Next time you go to Gary's drop me a line, I live 3 miles from there.....
 
b454rat said:
Link didn't work. Might have to set up an account at a photo sharing thingy...I have Webshots, seems to be OK. Next time you go to Gary's drop me a line, I live 3 miles from there.....
Or photobucket.com is pretty easy to use
 
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