64 Vette….Rebuild 2.0

[K85 Octane]

Quick question about the front brackets.



Does that just need to happen cause it's a cool car or because it's painted? I'm not sure if Plank will ever get restored now if I gotta do all that.

 

[folkenheath]

I was leaning toward the same conclusion myself Zim. The Super Victor, with some porting in the plenum and the port match, is likely the best choice for your application as it's the best performing manifold that will fit the car and doesn't require any custom modification to work, just some basic porting at the top of the plenum and a port match to the head. If we try to shorten the SV2 it may open a can of worms that costs more time than estimated. And the port sizes on the SV are closer to the SV2 than the Vic Jr.

I'll get a super victor on the way. I wanted to make sure you had available all options to make your decision.

 

[76zimmer]

Quick question about the front brackets.



Does that just need to happen cause it's a cool car or because it's painted? I'm not sure if Plank will ever get restored now if I gotta do all that.

Well, its self preference!
The original mounting of the alternator on my car was outboard of the pass valve cover. Using headers it made it more of a stretch for the belt to reach the alternator. I know there was some mis alignment using the headers and bracket for alternator mounting, and I had a problem with the belt self discharging at the higher rpm I was running [6700-6900) so I decided to mount it low and closer to the crank and water pump. I also wanted more power, so going to a 100 a single wire unit with a smaller case has worked out well. I have had no issues since.

 

[76zimmer]

I was leaning toward the same conclusion myself Zim. The Super Victor, with some porting in the plenum and the port match, is likely the best choice for your application as it's the best performing manifold that will fit the car and doesn't require any custom modification to work, just some basic porting at the top of the plenum and a port match to the head. If we try to shorten the SV2 it may open a can of worms that costs more time than estimated. And the port sizes on the SV are closer to the SV2 than the Vic Jr.

I'll get a super victor on the way. I wanted to make sure you had available all options to make your decision.

I appreciate the thoughts and experience too Heath!
I don’t want any worms! Can you drop ship it to Kert @ Diy4x?

 

[K85 Octane]

**Cough**
Ugly & Reliable = personal mantra

 

[K85 Octane]

Lmao though cause I'm really only using the Alt now hahahaha
AC delete pulley
Missing air pump
Missing PS pump

 

[76zimmer]

I used that bracket setup on my BBC for the Iron Maiden…love it!

 

[folkenheath]

I appreciate the thoughts and experience too Heath!
I don’t want any worms! Can you drop ship it to Kert @ Diy4x?

Per our conversation its ready to go Dave.

While Dave is on vacation his Vette is still being worked on yesterday.

The Super Victor arrived and I started to machine before I realized i didn't take a before picture...you can see the initial cuts from the bit with the manifold in my mill fixture.

You can also see where the runner dividers are actually so close that the center 4 cylinders get less flow area than the corner 4 cylinders.



Then I machined the volcano interface and put in my blocker to protect the machined surface during work. The Super Victor 2925 is one of the rare manifolds where the runner dividers come so close in the center that some of the divider is removed during the machining process. This leaves a less than ideal shape for the leading edge of the runner divider that has to be improved. You can also see where the air coming down through the outside of the throttle bores would have to turn in before it can then turn back out to go into the runner.



A mild blend of the runner dividers and port the top of the plenum out and the air can now flow straight down and make the turn out and combined with the Volcano Velocity Insert will work much better. I left it a burr finish, sanding makes it look nicer but cost time and money and usually isn't worth it for performance.

You can spend countless hours and over $1000 porting just the plenum on one of these, this is only about $115 worth. It's much more obvious in person when you can see the different angles and how the air flows into the runners.



Here are the Super Victor ports (R) as cast next to the Vic Jr ports (L). Dave may port match it himself or have the heads and manifold ported together later if he wants more power.

 

[76zimmer]

Great work Heath!
While managing my project from the roadtrip, it’s good to know it’s in capable experienced hands. Thanks again for the input and prompt response.
Heath is going to send it to Kert @ Iron Monger racing (same shop as the previous DIY4X) for powder coating, and I plan on picking it up on my way back to Michigan in a couple weeks.

 

[76zimmer]

Fresh powder!
Picking it up from Kert this weekend…
Sealing the raw aluminum with powder will keep it looking great and be easier to clean.

 

[76zimmer]

Super Victor looks sweet on the 427!
It gleems!
1/4” clearance at the front of the engine.

 

[76zimmer]

Oh and some friends helped me with the 6’ bodylift.
Should be able to get some work done soon.
The pile of parts is getting bigger.
I’m wrecked after working on this thing for hours and hours today.

 

[Babaganoosh]

She's a beaut

 

[folkenheath]

It's looking awesome Dave!

Are there any brackets available to move the battery to the back somewhere while you have it all apart?

 

[76zimmer]

C3’s have the battery behind the pass seat. Maybe I’ll check into that.

 

[Babaganoosh]

I forget if you have mentioned it, but are you staying local racing or going to do a drag and drive?

 

[76zimmer]

Local street driving with occasional trip to the local strip

 

[76zimmer]

While I was gone late August and most of Sept. my other rod end came for the alternator adjustment rod.
That worked out nicely. Just need a new belt with the smaller pulleys now.






I also installed the headers to check fitment of the 02 probe for the FI. I will enlarge the existing holes in the frame at amore downward angle and install a sleeve through the frame for reinforcment and ease of probe installation in the future. The 1/4” drive extension shows the route through the frame.







Body mounts organized and 3 shims needed at only one location on the frame. I’ll be getting new body mounts. These ones are 35 yrs old now.
These frames were crudely made and welded together, then put into a known standard jig and measured for shims at each body mount location (6 on the body and 2 at the radiator support).
Baggin and taggin the fasteners.

 

[shady]

Can the O2 sensor be at that angle?

 

[Babaganoosh]

Can the O2 sensor be at that angle?

Holley calls it for it to be at a 45