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You just got to love the availability of knowledge you have here on CK5. Helping a fellow brother out is an awesome thing. Way to go Minniwally. :waytogo: Can not wait to see your rig in a rolling chassis Greg.
 
You just got to love the availability of knowledge you have here on CK5. Helping a fellow brother out is an awesome thing. Way to go Minniwally. :waytogo: Can not wait to see your rig in a rolling chassis Greg.

No doubt.

I always appreciate it when someone can help me avoid making costly mistakes (either time or $$$) by sharing their own personal BTDT moments. Brandon has plenty of real-world experience with packaging links & shocks....so like the old E.F. Hutton commercials used to say: When he talks, I listen. :pimp:


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So how can you judge where your pinion angle needs to be without having a center section in the housing so you know how high/low the pinion is located and also the distance from the housing to the U-joint centerline? Remember, pinion angle is relative to the Yoke location in relation to the driveline (from the ground to the centerline of the Yoke/U-joint).
 
Scotty,

I have enough dimensions already to calculate all of that.


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2011.09.06 - UPDATE! - HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME....



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Looking great man! :bow::bow::bow::popcorn:

I do think you need an updated CK5 calendar though. That one appears to be my picture from the 2010 calendar :whistle:
 
Looking great man! :bow::bow::bow::popcorn:

I do think you need an updated CK5 calendar though. That one appears to be my picture from the 2010 calendar :whistle:


Actually, that is June 2011.... :blush:

On Father's Day (when I was last in the shop) I noticed that the calendar was still showing January, so I moved it to June. Now I'm off by a few months again!!!


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Actually, that is June 2011.... :blush:

On Father's Day (when I was last in the shop) I noticed that the calendar was still showing January, so I moved it to June. Now I'm off by a few months again!!!


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My K5 is Jun 2011? I thought my CC was in the 2011 calendar.. sadly I forgot mine at home :doah:
 
No, I meant pinion angle.

The mounting face of the housing is parallel with the pinion yoke, so if I use the mounting face as my reference I should be able to accurately set the pinion angle as well. Last time I ran the numbers for it, I ended up with a rear driveline angle of 10*. The combination of the portals and the effect of a flipped low-pinion centersection (creating a hi-pinion setup) gives me a very flat rear driveline, and very shallow operating angles for the u-joints.

My plan was to re-use my old 1-Ton rear HAD CV-shaft, so I'll need to set the pinion side to as close to 0* as possible (no angularity in u-joint) and let the CV side deal with whatever angularity is left.

You can see from the last photos that the upper link towers are slightly angled forward. When the pumpkin gets rotated into it's final position, most of that forward "rake" will go away. There should still be a slight amount left since the upper links are designed to be 1" forward of the axle centerline.


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UNREAL, JUST UNREAL, can’t understand anything you guys are talking about, but UNREAL!!!:dunno:
I’m enjoying it just following along with the build :waytogo:
Ed
 
Its pretty crazy seeing this build start and progress. I thought it would just be a body restore and the usual build but its gone from great sheet metal work to way overkill. Nice job, now hurry up and finish so we can do some wheelin.
 
don't mean to pad this thread anymore, but I finally got a chance to read over the whole thing and am curious if the original "transformer" idea is still intact. I know its been a long time, and you haven't done any body work in a few years, so I was just wondering if your ideas on that have evolved any.

obviously I'm way behind the times, but for me it was just yesterday when you were considering the swing in fenders. :D last update I remember on the subject, you were looking at a swing up front clip and removable side panels, but hadn't decided what you would do with those pieces at the trailhead, leading me to believe you might have had a change of heart.

anyway, as a 1st gen fan, I'm very excited to see whatever you come up with. the idea of having a nice looking (ie, full body) 1st gen that is extremely capable is very intriguing.
 
The transformer idea is still part of the master plan.... however, I'm not going to try to do the swing-in/out fenders or some of the other crazy stuff I'd considered earlier.

There are a couple of reasons:

First, designing bodywork that could effectively fold-up or fold-in requires a LOT of moving parts and precise tolerances to work properly, and my fear was that the end result wouldn't really "look" like a classic 1st Gen even in "non-transformed" mode....too many extra body gaps, hinges and weird fasteners everywhere.

Second, it is not realistic to think that the body would NEVER make contact with a rock or tree or other trail obstacle. Think about a wildly complex transformer body getting wedged into a rock and bending all of those complex gizmos that it needs to make it work. :yikes: Plus, it seemed inevitable that all that tricky stuff would add a lot of extra weight.

SO..... long story short, the front fenders and hood will end up being a 1-piece unit that will tilt-forward. I will have a couple of quick-release pins to yank it off completely. There will also be a quick-release wiring harness so that I can disconnect the headlights, directionals and side marker lights. I've got a concept that will allow that harness to automatically trigger a relay so that when the front end is removed the power will run to another set of headlights and directionals mounted to the narrowed front engine cagework....so I'll still have a quasi-street legal setup even with the front clip removed. :waytogo:

The doors will probably be modified with a set of pins so that I can pull the regular doors and quickly throw on either tube doors or a cut-down 1/2 door setup. The rear quarterpanels will be removable as well, and will reveal tubework hidden underneath (basically full-length rub rails). This will keep the trees out of the areas on either side of the rear tires....especially important when coming off the rockslider. Without some kind of quarterpanel protection you're almost guaranteed that the tree will crush into the b-pillar area and then mangle the entire side of the truck as you move forward.... no bueno. I want to make sure that the truck still looks as good as possible even when all the fenders are pulled off, so I intend to paint those interior panels and rub rails to match the rest of the body.

The nice part about this setup is that I still get to keep a normal interior and storage space. If I dovetail the rear, I lose a lot of utility and it becomes almost impossible to seal the vehicle from weather. By keeping the upper bedrails intact (the outer bedskin simply hangs over them -> BTW) I can still use a conventional soft top even with the bedsides removed, and the truck will still be watertight.

I fully intend to make sure this truck is driveable to and from trails....and one of the big priorities is that I want to be self-sufficient without a trailer & towrig. I want to have enough room to carry tools, camping gear and food and still sleep in the back instead of the dirt.


So much for making my long story short..... :dunno:



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thanks for the detailed reply. it certainly makes more sense to just remove the stuff that you are worried about getting messed up/scratched.
it sounds like you'll still have all of the lights, etc to make it street legal, so I guess the plan would be to leave those items back at camp?
 
Exactly.....with a long chain and a couple of padlocks around the closest tree!!

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Since this build is going nowhere I thought I'd at least post a Halloween photo of Danger....

At the very least I know you guys would appreciate seeing the good, manly Viking costume that we set him up with.

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He doesn't stay up very late, so by the time I got home from work and got him all dressed up and ready to travel, we only got to 3 houses (relatives and friends) before all the pillaging tired him completely out. He was able to get some good loot back to the ship before finally heading off to sleep. :D

With my copious spare time, I have been tearing out all of the original carpets and tile in my house and replacing them with beautiful 3.25" Brazillian cherry. These long nights and weekends are killing me..... :doah:


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I got all excited when this thread popped up, knowing full well that you haven't had a second to spend in the garage. :doah:

Just seen these pics this morning. Cute kid with an awesome costume, as I'm guessing he is dressed up as a Minnesota Viking.


The best team in football. :whistle:
 
It's been a real crush of activity for sure.... The colder weather is a not-so-subtle reminder that winter will be here soon, and around these parts there is an awful lot that MUST be done to prepare.

You might have seen on the news that the northeast got an unusually early storm this year.... A couple weekends ago I woke up to this unpleasant surprise. :yikes:

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That's about 18" of snow in one night. I already had plans for the day doing house projects but instead spent most of the morning clearing the driveway and cars so that we could get to Home Depot, etc.

There are times when I really miss San Jose weather.


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cute setup Greg...I'm so glad he's not a packer....
I can relate to the winter prep. although I like winter, seems like its a lot of 'to do' stuff to get prepped for it.
 
That costume is fantastic. He looks like, "what?! can't a viking take a break?" Awesome. That's a hella snow storm too. I grew up in NE Ohio so I'm no stranger to the white stuff, but that's a bit much!
 
greg that snow storm was a weird kick in the pants huh....we got about the same here in hillsboro! the boy is getting big, almost time to start walking huh?
 

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