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'74 K5 build: Smurf

The rear calipers are the Caddy Eldos, and their ability to hold varies. Scott says that if rebuilt properly and kept in adjustment, they can work well, but that's a ton of work. I thought I'd splurge on a transfer case parking brake, then, and see how it worked. If it performed well, I could swap out the rear calipers for regular ones and simplify things a bit.

So I ordered Jess' setup from HAD. Bit of a gruff fellow, he is, but he's been helpful enough through this mess (which is, to be clear, entirely of my doing -- not his fault! :) )

First thing I discovered was that the rotor wouldn't fit in my particular case (ha! case, get it?) My Doubler is clocked up 2" so the 205 is tucked up against the body pretty well, and the rotor was banging up against the floor.

I've been debating a small body lift (I know, Martin, you swear by them) and this was the tipping point. Of course this meant that I had to cut & reweld a few bits of my tire carrier, as the body was now moving up in relation to the bumper & frame.

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Notice the 45* dogleg in the upper right. No big deal, just more work and redoing something I'd just done :doah:

But that's getting ahead. I ordered a 1" body lift from ORD (crossing my fingers that would give me enough clearance) and in a fit of "MightAsWell-itis" got new poly body mounts as well.

Installing the body lift has several stages:

1. Fiddling through the instructions, which sometimes match up to the parts you are sent. Kind of.

2. Getting under the truck and pouring rusting into your eyes getting the old bits out. If you wear eye protection, the rust bits instead go up your nose.

3. Applying either very modulated amounts of force (i.e. to pop loose rusted bolts without breaking anything) or ridiculous amounts of force with prybars, the Hi-Lift, and the trusty ATV jack. This latter went under the sliders and held the entire side of the truck up quite evenly.

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The process went fairly smoothly, once I sorted out which pieces went where, but was still time-consuming. You do one side of the truck first, then once it's finished switch to the other side.

Here's the #3 mounts; you can see the rubber ones are splitting some. What you don't see is that they're squashed, and from what I found later, increasingly squashed towards the back. :doah:

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The poly ones should last forever and I am hoping will maintain their shape :D

It's really hard to take a picture that shows it, but in measuring the truck before and after I found that the back end moved up about 1.5-2". After a body lift. Which moves the WHOLE body up. I presume, then, that the rear body mounts were collapsing worse than the fronts.

Once the truck was back together, the parking brake rotor did indeed clear the body. However, I found that the rear output on my '205 has a ridiculous amount of play (like 1/4"), so the pads drag on the rotor and the truck stops itself. Just coasting down the driveway. :doah: :angry: I'll be dropping the '205 and sorting through that at some point. Mike 'TheBeast' has been kind enough to offer to come down and share his experience, though that may consist of burritos and him laughing at my mess :D

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There was also the matter of the gaping hole in the firewall where the heater core and AC crap had been. Being a fan of diamond plate, I got me a chunk of steel and set to work. As it's a complex location with an odd seam in the sheetmetal and lots of holes, a cardboard template was made:

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Cardboard is cheaper to fsck up than steel. :D After two templates, the design was finalized and transferred to the steel:

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and the requisite blue is applied. You can have any color you want as long as it's blue.

Finally, the plate is installed with some weatherstripping to seal it to keep noxious fumes out of the cab. (Well, minimize them, as there may still be noxious fumes in the cab after burritos :whistle: )

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This left lots of room for the air tank on the inner fender. In retrospect I prolly could have done a 3 gallon (this one's 2), but whatever, it works.

-- A
 
Tankie's "to-do" list is still long, including pulling the '205, but she's doing well.

I hacked the fan shroud up back when I did the Doubler because the fan had started to whack it. While this means that I didn't have to fiddle with it for the body lift, it's not 100% aligned right, so there's a new shroud to put in, aligned properly for the body lift. She's running a bit how now and I'm hoping that will go away with the shroud.

I did get her up to a peak of 70MPH today, so I think the suspension is about as dialled in as it's gonna get for a while. The rest of the stuff can wait, so it might just be time to ...

Work on the other truck for a bit. (You thought I was gonna say "go wheeling"? Insert Nelson Muntz "Ha-ha" from the Simpsons :haha: )

-- A
 
Bandana, like a bank robber... And, some sand/snowboarding goggles.

Rust proof.


Sweet progress! :D

I do have a face shield. Sometimes I think that sh!t just wants to get into my hair. (For those who haven't met me, I have *red* hair ... though at this age, there's some grey, so I'd almost take the rust :haha: )

Thanks. The brakes on the brown truck have some serious issues (somebody :rolleyes: hacked them all up) and I wanna un-do that mess, put it back to stock, but after that I do wanna dig into the 205 and fix it up.

-- A
 
If you ever need a hand, I can help you wrench/weld,
And I work for burritos. :D

So, you can maybe, finally go....

Work on the next set of issues.... :haha:
 
Geez d00d....what's with all the rapid progress? :dunno:

You been chugging PowerThirsts lately? It seems like you have gratuitous amounts of energy....... (is that a cameo appearance at 0:24?) :)


NSFWK



-G
 
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If you ever need a hand, I can help you wrench/weld,
And I work for burritos. :D

So, you can maybe, finally go....

Work on the next set of issues.... :haha:

The issues never end, this I know. There's that Fordum-ism about fixing the truck :haha: And besides burritos, there's also beer. :D Thanks for the assist offer, btw -- sentcha a PM.

Geez d00d....what's with all the rapid progress? :dunno:

You been chugging PowerThirsts lately? It seems like you have gratuitous amounts of energy....... (is that a cameo appearance at 0:24?) :)

-G

Ha! That ... yeah ... no.

Unlike some people who do slow-n-steady (and have a garage that fits their truck), I do a little here, wait a week, do a little there, as the urge strikes and the weather permits. Then maybe I get caught up in something shiny in the house and forget about the trucks for a while (have this Arduino thing going on lately) ... then later when I get bored I write it up here. Like, umm, several weeks later. I think the body lift was December, for instance, in intermittent rain, which was okay 'cuz I was dry under the truck :rolleyes:

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So was I right? Does it make it much nicer to work on it under there?

Martin
 
So was I right? Does it make it much nicer to work on it under there?

Martin

So far the only thing I've had occasion to work on is the shackle flips, which are generally a PITA to get at . At least with the body lift they were less of a PITA, and by dropping the tank some (without disconnecting it) I could get in from above ... so, yeah. We'll see how it goes down the line as I'm sure there will be more fixing :surepal: to do :haha:

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Nice work. I've been thinking about replacing my body mounts too, and this is further encouragement. I've thought about a 1" body lift too, but haven't decided...
 
Nice work. I've been thinking about replacing my body mounts too, and this is further encouragement. I've thought about a 1" body lift too, but haven't decided...

Pros: Easier to work on stuff, access to stuff inside the frame / underneath like the filler tube, t-case, etc. More tire clearance, no change to suspension. 1" is short enough that shifter linkages should still fit (mine did).

Cons: Fan shroud will need work. Might not fit in the garage at 1" taller.

If you're gonna do the body mounts, Might As Well (tm :haha: ) do the pucks while you're in there, it's no more work.

-- A
 
I've got a HAD tcase parking brake I'm going to install as well. I'll be watching your thread. I haven't found many good write-ups on installing them.
 
Pros: Easier to work on stuff, access to stuff inside the frame / underneath like the filler tube, t-case, etc. More tire clearance, no change to suspension. 1" is short enough that shifter linkages should still fit (mine did).

Cons: Fan shroud will need work. Might not fit in the garage at 1" taller.

If you're gonna do the body mounts, Might As Well (tm :haha: ) do the pucks while you're in there, it's no more work.

-- A

I agree with this. I am a big fan of the 1" body lift.

Martin
 
Pros: Easier to work on stuff, access to stuff inside the frame / underneath like the filler tube, t-case, etc. More tire clearance, no change to suspension. 1" is short enough that shifter linkages should still fit (mine did).

Cons: Fan shroud will need work. Might not fit in the garage at 1" taller.

If you're gonna do the body mounts, Might As Well (tm :haha: ) do the pucks while you're in there, it's no more work.

-- A

Hadn't thought about the fan shroud. Did you just lop off a chunk of the bottom half of the shroud, or...?
 
Hadn't thought about the fan shroud. Did you just lop off a chunk of the bottom half of the shroud, or...?

I would pull it off and shave it down a bit. When I did my BL I didn't need to trim at all, but I never replaced my body bushings so they might have squished over time giving me the sag I needed.
 
Hadn't thought about the fan shroud. Did you just lop off a chunk of the bottom half of the shroud, or...?

Mine was already cut down from when I did the Doubler. I didn't know any better and reangled my drivetrain :doah: Now that I have poly motor and tranny mounts it's at least straight again, but I'll need to replace the shroud. I'm hoping I can shift mine down without having to cut up the replacement, as they're hard to find for older trucks. I am thinking some aluminum flat stock may be in my future.

I suppose with poly mounts the body wouldn't shift so much, but my experience is that these old trucks can twist pretty good. Point being you'd want pretty good clearance from the fan to the shroud, so you either go hog wild trimming, or move it somehow. More to come when I do mine.

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