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Any possibility this may actually be a LEAN misfire? That can show up and smell like running rich sometimes.

Have your misfire tables been nullified?

There's a bunch of other signs of it running rich besides the nose. Fuel trims, obvious black exhaust and the first set of black plugs.

What missfire tables are you referring to? I haven't had any missfire issues however it was loading up on fuel coming off the trail and the fouled plugs were to blame for that.
 
here are the pop up tables in that menu.
There's some stupid settings in there. Why would you want max torque set to 350 on an 8.1L? Below is what I see for 2001 and 2003. The rest of your numbers are close/same.

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EDIT: the last one is for 2003. The 2001 file has a single row, but higher values: 326 at 0-400, up to 526 at 4k, everything above 5k is 447. I don't know if having values here above the single "Max Torque = 500" box does anything.
 
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Torque management has a lot to do with drive by wire throttle control too. By not having a dbw setup to delay the throttle opening they almost have to turn it off.
Throttle control is only one of the means to limit torque. They also cut spark and can turn off injectors. There are torque management settings just for the transmission that haven't even been shown here yet. They can cut torque up to 55% during a WOT shift. Then there's the regular torque limits we've been discussing here and notice that only ETC Limits have to do with throttle reduction. Therefore, those numbers might not matter here? It can also cut timing as part of traction control, but throttle is the primary device for that (well, and ABS..)
 
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Any possibility this may actually be a LEAN misfire? That can show up and smell like running rich sometimes.

Have your misfire tables been nullified?
Yes, with misfires, you can get rich mixtures coming out, but the O2 should still read lean, regardless of why it's misfiring.
 
If you take it on face value that the Howell ECU's are good, then you must have something else going on. What about the O2 sensors?
 
@Blue85 I can post the transmission settings for feedback. I also added the injector pulse width to the data logging list so those can be viewed. Anything else that I’m missing?

@mrk5 I was considering the simple fact that it’s hard to believe that I have two PCM’s that are bad or not setup for my engine.

The O2’s are mismatched brands currently but I haven’t seen anything that would indicate there’s an issue with either one.

I’m starting to question other stupid simple things like grounds and wondering if it’s harness related.
 
@Blue85 I can post the transmission settings for feedback. I also added the injector pulse width to the data logging list so those can be viewed. Anything else that I’m missing?

@mrk5 I was considering the simple fact that it’s hard to believe that I have two PCM’s that are bad or not setup for my engine.

The O2’s are mismatched brands currently but I haven’t seen anything that would indicate there’s an issue with either one.

I’m starting to question other stupid simple things like grounds and wondering if it’s harness related.
Run through the ground check stuff we talked about the other day, make sure you dont engineer a ground loop in there.

I always check kPA, TPS, and RPM. They should be fluid to each other. If not, you should be asking why
 
@Blue85 I can post the transmission settings for feedback. I also added the injector pulse width to the data logging list so those can be viewed. Anything else that I’m missing?

@mrk5 I was considering the simple fact that it’s hard to believe that I have two PCM’s that are bad or not setup for my engine.

The O2’s are mismatched brands currently but I haven’t seen anything that would indicate there’s an issue with either one.

I’m starting to question other stupid simple things like grounds and wondering if it’s harness related.
I was thinking the sensor could be fouled like the plugs. I read about people using an extension on the O2 sensor to help keep it from getting fouled so I put one in the crew cab some time ago. But maybe that could be why the new PCM is better but not right.
 
I was thinking the sensor could be fouled like the plugs. I read about people using an extension on the O2 sensor to help keep it from getting fouled so I put one in the crew cab some time ago. But maybe that could be why the new PCM is better but not right.

It’s looks ok but I swapped it out for a Delphi so both banks are the same.

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Run through the ground check stuff we talked about the other day, make sure you dont engineer a ground loop in there.

I always check kPA, TPS, and RPM. They should be fluid to each other. If not, you should be asking why

Added a ground from the water neck to the frame where the fan grounds are located and another ground from the back of the head to the battery. Also cleaned the head really well where the harness ground is located.

Warming it up now for a spin and more data logging.
 
still the same issues and they get worse as the engine heat increases. I'm also noticing a slightly higher idle at full temp.

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I may have found a hint, at least I'm hoping it is.

This screenshot is midway through a pull, note the TPS is 27%, timing dipped to 1 degree and the MAP maintains at 75 kPa.
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I may have found a hint, at least I'm hoping it is.

This screenshot is midway through a pull, note the TPS is 27%, timing dipped to 1 degree and the MAP maintains at 75 kPa.
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This suggests that the MAP sensor is working, and the timing is being told to be cut, but not on BKR or KR
 
So I don't know the condition of your engine or your exhaust system but is there a possibility that it is the engine?
Or even a clogged up exhaust?
At this point we have to consider every possibility

The engine is used and I didn't see it run however the guy I bought it from said it was running in a rolled truck. The exhaust has been on the truck for years with the 454. Simple setup with 2.25" off each manifold to a merge with a 3" out through a big magnafolw muffler (3" IN/OUT). The muffler is a little banged up from the rocks but I don't believe its restricted.

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This suggests that the MAP sensor is working, and the timing is being told to be cut, but not on BKR or KR

and I swapped the MAP with a brand new AC Delco before the last session. No Change.
 

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