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This. The time commitment is so minor it's not worth fussing about. I'll bet you could get at least 6 of the plugs changed in less than 1 minute apiece. And for the other 2, you'd hafta budget an entire minute.
Seriously, if your plugs are bad, changing them is faster than bringing up CK5 to do a post about it.
Testing all the plugs would take perhaps 2 or 3 extra minutes (to make sure the plugs are the problem, rather than the circuitry running them).
Also, the fact that it pops right off after a bit of cycling makes me wonder if the controller is the problem, and it's just intermittantly functional. This is what I'm chasing on my CUCV right now. And, like my other two trucks, the story is ending with me wiring up a manual switch and disconnecting the controller entirely. IIRC, you said you're running a manual switch AND the controller (
). Are these in series or parallel?
Here's a picture of the 8 plugs I removed this week. All came out intact (though they don't always cooperate)
More info here (though you'll hafta sort through some other issues that are happening simultaneously)
https://ck5.com/forums/threads/322496/page-10#post-3603452
The engine was firing right up 6 or 7 starts ago, and now 7 of the 8 plugs read open on the ohmmeter. Didn't take long to go from perfect operation to completely unstartable. Whodathunk that they'd all go at once?
More info here (though you'll hafta sort through some other issues that are happening simultaneously)
https://ck5.com/forums/threads/322496/page-10#post-3603452
The engine was firing right up 6 or 7 starts ago, and now 7 of the 8 plugs read open on the ohmmeter. Didn't take long to go from perfect operation to completely unstartable. Whodathunk that they'd all go at once?
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
Just ordered some Welman Glow Plugs online , will replace when they get here... there were cheaper ones , but thought , I wanna put the best I can in while I can ...
the manual GP controller and the original was wired up my the last owner ...and is intermittent ..., so if the GP's aren't it ...the controller will be the next thing to throw at it .... sure makes me miss my old yota ... just turn the key and it ran every time ...
the manual GP controller and the original was wired up my the last owner ...and is intermittent ..., so if the GP's aren't it ...the controller will be the next thing to throw at it .... sure makes me miss my old yota ... just turn the key and it ran every time ...
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onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
haven't got the GP's yet , should be here maybe today ... hope thats it ... I'm about done with this shitvy ! Have lots of folks that want it , trade for yotas, cash, etc... get it runnin... see ya
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
Can I ask what other issues you've been having? Or is it just the sporadic hard starting? I understand it can be frustrating, but if this single issue is driving you that crazy, perhaps old iron is the wrong hobby to have.
There are lots of non-old vehicles out there that don't require so much repair.
There are lots of non-old vehicles out there that don't require so much repair.
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
it's pretty much the not starting problems, the no guages, etc. and the $5,000 I've put in it for less than a year of ownership... tends to put a damper in your feelings on the burb... Yes its NOT my hobby , My hobby is fishin and campin in the Mtns, this was the means to get there. , but it won't let me get there ... so yes I prefer a more or less turn the key and it goes kinda 2nd vehicle , I'm not one that wants to spend my offwork time tinkering in diesel grease for the sake of doing so , I'm not into a circle jerk of chevy's like 427 must be into... it's not that fun ! If thats what all you guys like to do, great ... not my cup of tea... and yes it is frustrating, because of all the problems it "Could" be ...
Ok. If turning wrenches isn't your idea of fun, I would recommend that you get a significantly newer vehicle. There's nothing "wrong" with your truck, and it hasn't given you excessive grief. It's just that you have a 30-year-old truck. This is par for the course. A newer vehicle can be cheaply obtained to do everything this truck can do (minus the awesomeness that only comes with age, of course
). And probably cheaper, given that newer Suburbans are cheaper than these ones (in my area, at least).So don't feel bad in getting rid of it if it's burning ya out. Conversely, it looks like you've solved just about all the problems, so you're not too far from having a new (old) truck!
If you decide that you don't want it, I'll be the first to give ya $500 for it!
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
Yeah thats great ! ... Thanks I have 8 people interested in it at the $5,000 mark ... but it needs to be running to sell .... Yep back to yotas for me , out wheel and certainly outlast turds like this !
Well, we'll help ya get it running (you might even find a serious buyer on here).
But feel free to post up Yoda pictures when the time comes.
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
and I don't mean to be a dick about chevys , it just pisses me off all the crap to fix ... But I do need something more reliable , and have had good luck with yotas in the past ... so why I didn't get one when I got this ... I wanted the large-ness of the suburban to put a bed in the back and the advent of no smog and 21 mpg ... all seemed cool at the time ... then things started breaking and it wasn't cool anymore. Hopefully that makes sense ! So I'll get the glow plugs between the 2nd- 8th of feb, swap out the bad ones, and hopefully it'll pop over !
I do notice when I try to start it , it almost goes, and when I give up after 4 or 5 times , I see all the smoke thats come out of the tail pipe and all the smoke thats still coming out ... so to me that means fuel is getting there , it's just not cranking over ... does that make sense Campfire ?
I do notice when I try to start it , it almost goes, and when I give up after 4 or 5 times , I see all the smoke thats come out of the tail pipe and all the smoke thats still coming out ... so to me that means fuel is getting there , it's just not cranking over ... does that make sense Campfire ?
I don't care what it is. At this age of vehicle its gonna break.
I have horror stories of Toyotas, Nissans,Chevy's, Fords, Dodge, Isuzu, Honda pretty much all of em.
Don't even get me started on land rover. There's a group of guys who like working on stuff.
It's all the same to me anymore. It's old, it breaks, I fix it. Rinse, lather, repeat
I have horror stories of Toyotas, Nissans,Chevy's, Fords, Dodge, Isuzu, Honda pretty much all of em.
Don't even get me started on land rover. There's a group of guys who like working on stuff.
It's all the same to me anymore. It's old, it breaks, I fix it. Rinse, lather, repeat
BTW I also have glorious story's of 500k vehicles of just about all those never needing a spec of anything too.
It's all the same
It's all the same
I have plenty of integrity. You have more or less bitched about your suburban from day one. My guess is you started with someone else's half ass project. I would have planned on a near overhaul if I had seen that the previous couldn't even fix the gauges.
Chevrolet has about as much to do with the problems you're having with your less than perfectly maintained suburban, that I do with NASA's current space exploration.
Everyone here has had to make a repair or 2 on their vehicles but they figure owning a 20+ year old vehicle isn't going to be perfect. Hell I worked at a dealership and even new vehicles can have major problems. The comfort we all take is in the fact we aren't driving a cookie cutter car, we can do our own work when required and it beats the hell out of a car payment.
I personally wouldn't consider a Toyota. I find them cheap, tiney and underpowered. Not to mention the fact I can remember hearing the stories of the world war II vets telling me about fighting the Japanese. Sure some day the Taliban may be making some nice economy cars but I won't be buying them either.
Coming on a site devoted to a specific vehicle, then posting your hatred for them is bound to get a little back lash. I would assume that would have been a pretty obvious concept but clearly your troubles have gotten the better of you. I am sorry your suburban wasn't everything you dreamed of and I wish you the best in your future endeavors. We will welcome the new owner and help him sort through its difficulties so it can become what he dreams of.
Chevrolet has about as much to do with the problems you're having with your less than perfectly maintained suburban, that I do with NASA's current space exploration.
Everyone here has had to make a repair or 2 on their vehicles but they figure owning a 20+ year old vehicle isn't going to be perfect. Hell I worked at a dealership and even new vehicles can have major problems. The comfort we all take is in the fact we aren't driving a cookie cutter car, we can do our own work when required and it beats the hell out of a car payment.
I personally wouldn't consider a Toyota. I find them cheap, tiney and underpowered. Not to mention the fact I can remember hearing the stories of the world war II vets telling me about fighting the Japanese. Sure some day the Taliban may be making some nice economy cars but I won't be buying them either.
Coming on a site devoted to a specific vehicle, then posting your hatred for them is bound to get a little back lash. I would assume that would have been a pretty obvious concept but clearly your troubles have gotten the better of you. I am sorry your suburban wasn't everything you dreamed of and I wish you the best in your future endeavors. We will welcome the new owner and help him sort through its difficulties so it can become what he dreams of.
onedaatmc
1/2 ton status
well its a piece of shit , and I would have expected more from it being its American made. I knew it wasn't perfect , but didn't think that I'm gonna have to fix or repair on it constantly. I understand that just cause your on this forum and you have chevy trucks , you think that makes you some how more American than me ... ha ... I took 4 bullets for this country in the middle east ... , so please step off your high horse. As far as it getting the better of me , I work 12 hr days , the last thing I want to do is having to keep fixing a truck on my days off. If you can't grasp that idea , well then I can't help you understand.
So youve never cussed out the brand , nor anything when you've been frustrated with a certain problems with your chevy ? Huh ! I claim bs ...
My last toyota , fyi had 423,000 miles on it , no problems , other than minor stuff over the years , but then I had to go fight overseas , and it was stolen while I was gone ... so finally after years of saving money to buy a second vehicle I buy a chevy thinking it would be a good choice , only for it to start falling apart kinda pisses me off . So maybe think about why people say things and whats behind their saying so , before you jump to conclusions about why people say what they said. But if ou want to keep on keeping on cause you own a chevy and your on a chevy board ... by all means , get your jollies doing so , cause I really don't care.
So youve never cussed out the brand , nor anything when you've been frustrated with a certain problems with your chevy ? Huh ! I claim bs ...
My last toyota , fyi had 423,000 miles on it , no problems , other than minor stuff over the years , but then I had to go fight overseas , and it was stolen while I was gone ... so finally after years of saving money to buy a second vehicle I buy a chevy thinking it would be a good choice , only for it to start falling apart kinda pisses me off . So maybe think about why people say things and whats behind their saying so , before you jump to conclusions about why people say what they said. But if ou want to keep on keeping on cause you own a chevy and your on a chevy board ... by all means , get your jollies doing so , cause I really don't care.
Hardly any of these claims have been made. We're not calling you "unamerican," nor is it hard to understand why you don't like the situation.
But it's not a POS, this is fairly normal for a car of that condition from any manufacturer. You have no grounds for griping about buying a 30-year-old project and then finding that it needs work. That's the definition of a project. Some 30-year-old rigs are in fine shape, most aren't. Same will be true if you buy a similar-year Toyota. I hope you get one of the good ones, but don't be surprised if you get a normal truck with normal age-related issues.
No, I've never cussed out the brand like this, because GM has little to do with those trucks anymore. Their current condition is mostly a function of what their owners have done to them for the last several decades. GM stepped out of the picture long ago. Any cussing will be directed toward the previous owners, unless it's an engineering or production issue. And I'm pretty sure that doesn't apply to your current dilemma of having to do routine GP maintenance (<gasp>
). I'll wager good money that your 423,000 mile Yota wasn't on its first set of spark plugs, either.Again, since you're not looking for a project, why don't you buy a newer rig in nicer shape with fewer broken items? I think that will be superior in every way compared to your current situation.
