87 K5 Build...Hmmm, whats that Ryoken up to? stay tuned...

[ryoken]

I remember the ole bias days of running N50-15's and such...


just ordered the plexi, led's, framing, etc for the dash...


and just pulled the trigger on this for Ryoken's Lab ™



http://www.tptools.com/Skat-Blast-M...-Pedal-Cabinet-Kit-24-Standard-Lens,7194.html


splurged on a 50lb bag of their ScatMagic abrasive too.. we'll see how that works..

all told with a foot door, vac fitting and a few other things, it was $460 to work's door...

2 or 3 sheets of some nice ply depending on how big I go for under $100.. my shop vac = free..

so in a few weeks for under $600 hopefully I'll have a pretty sweet foot operated blast cabinet...

 

[Deuling]

Hmm thats not a bad lookin kit.


Whats the dimensions your gonna make the cabinet?

 

[ryoken]

the foot pedal makes it badarse..

I'm gonna do a custom furnace filter intake, hopefully it'll stay pretty clear..

at first I was all, "I'll just go with a small 24" window, but go nice and wide with the cabinet.." and I still may....

but as opposed to a big 48 or so wide one like I original thought, I may go more like the plans call for. which is like 34 or 36 wide.. just for LAB space really..

48 wide will take quite a bit of wall space.. 36 wide takes 2 sheets of ply.. 48 wide will take 3 I guess.. i'll see what the plans look like and how much room I think I can spare....

 

[Deuling]

Yah I gotcha. Sounds interesting paul. If you give me sketches I could whip it up in cad class for you and lay it out on whatever sheet size your using so you can optimize material usage, and have a 3d preview of your cabinet

 

[Chief Brody]

Didn't know they made kits like that....I might have built one of those to blast the small parts if I hadn't already had them done.

 

[ryoken]

yeah, I've had access to em for about 1/2 my adult life.. and when I haven't, it was annoying the amount of times I could have used it...

next tool for the Lab list will be the Baileigh bandsaw...

but that wont be till x-mas prolly...

 

[y5mgisi]

Cool tools!

 

[FrostBite]

yeah, I've had access to em for about 1/2 my adult life.. and when I haven't, it was annoying the amount of times I could have used it...

next tool for the Lab list will be the Baileigh bandsaw...

Bandsaw Picture...

but that wont be till x-mas prolly...

The casting looks the same as all of the other small bandsaws, so you could get the same thing for ~1/3 as much with the Harbor Freight version. I'm normally not a fan of Asian tools, but I can't see paying Baileigh's prices for what amounts to a HF tool. I think I paid around $150 for mine, and all I've done to it are build a sturdier stand and trade out the plastic blade tension knob for a socket so I can adjust blade tension with a ratchet.

 

[ryoken]

it's no HF from what I've read.. it got good reviews, better than the 5, $600 Jet.. and I know those are supposed to be a fair amount better than the bottom end JET, which effectively looks like the HF and all the other cheapie taiwan's in the 2 to 300 range..

I keep trying to find some decent used local Carolina, Wellsaw, Kalamazoo, etc, on CL or eghey, but any decent deal I find is too far to pick up..

 

[454Sub]

I use a Harbor Freight one, its not to awful bad, but its not that one either. Just depends on what your looking for in life. Me, I cant afford that, much like Snap-On, no denying they are great tools, but I just cant swing that stuff anymore with kids and the house and the kids and the kids and the kids and the kids and the kids and the woman, and the kids again.

 

[ryoken]

The casting looks the same as all of the other small bandsaws, so you could get the same thing for ~1/3 as much with the Harbor Freight version. I'm normally not a fan of Asian tools, but I can't see paying Baileigh's prices for what amounts to a HF tool. I think I paid around $150 for mine, and all I've done to it are build a sturdier stand and trade out the plastic blade tension knob for a socket so I can adjust blade tension with a ratchet

tho I will chalk that up to another guy that's had reasonable success running a HF one... have you changed out the blade? I heard the HF ones sucked...



here's a $1300 saw for about 7, 750 shipped right now.. needs a $50 part prolly..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/JET-414459-...606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51ab53feb6

I saw another up that was like a $2200 saw and it was going in the same $700 range with a busted part, new on a pallet..

 

[ryoken]

just cant swing that stuff anymore with kids and the house and the kids and the kids and the kids and the kids and the kids and the woman, and the kids again.

Trust me, I've bought my share of cheap cr@p over the yrs too...

I will be getting, tweaking, HF's 20 ton press for the house here in the future... I already have the 12 ton down at work.. I've had that focker like 12 to 15yrs.. damn jack still works great!

 

[FrostBite]

tho I will chalk that up to another guy that's had reasonable success running a HF one... have you changed out the blade? I heard the HF ones sucked...



here's a $1300 saw for about 7, 750 shipped right now.. needs a $50 part prolly..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/JET-414459-...606?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item51ab53feb6

I saw another up that was like a $2200 saw and it was going in the same $700 range with a busted part, new on a pallet..

I did swap out the blade for a Starrett from McMaster almost right from the get go so I'm fuzzy on how the factory blade cut. My only complaints with the saw are that it's not going to win any races cutting metal (it moves through wood and plastic no problem) and the movable jaw is shorter than the static jaw, so on shorter pieces the movable jaw won't lock down on something unless you wedge something in behind the piece you are cutting. For an idea of cut speeds, I cut some 1.5 x .25" DOM tonight at about 1.5 minutes per cut, while 4.5" solid 4140 took about 45 minutes per cut. As far as cut accuracy, the 4140 slugs faced off in the lathe in less than 5 passes at .010" per pass.

it's no HF from what I've read.. it got good reviews, better than the 5, $600 Jet.. and I know those are supposed to be a fair amount better than the bottom end JET, which effectively looks like the HF and all the other cheapie taiwan's in the 2 to 300 range..

I keep trying to find some decent used local Carolina, Wellsaw, Kalamazoo, etc, on CL or eghey, but any decent deal I find is too far to pick up..

My cousin's father in law owns an industrial fabrication shop, and they have a huge Ellis with a pivoting base and around 20 feet worth of roller table on either side of it. It is sweet, and chews through some metal with a quickness, but blades for their saw probably cost more than my entire set up.

 

[ryoken]

cool, and duly noted...


for as much as I'd love some beast 7 x 12 oldschool saw, they are realistically just too big for the LAB ™.


ideally I'd get some new $1500 to $2500 slightly more compact unit.. the footprint slightly larger than the HF, etc.. like this Jet with all the beveled gears and whistles.. http://www.google.com/shopping/product/17605719486018621308?q=jet%20horizontal%20band%20saw&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&bav=on.2,or.r_qf.&bvm=bv.45368065,d.dmg&biw=1600&bih=844&sa=X&ei=iohuUbHZI9Th4APAzoGICA&ved=0CIQBEPMCMAY



but spending over a grand on a tool is HUGE for me.. my $1200 Quincy was the most.. 800 on the miller, 800 bender... so I figure i'll go 5, 600 on the saw and go a step above bottom of the line...

 

[cliles]

I just bought one of these dry chop saws.

http://www.evolutionpowertools.com/us/steel/steelsaw2.html.

The videos are very impressive.

I went through the dry saw, cold saw, band saw dilemma this weekend bc my abrasive chop saw always leaves me wanting more. I settled on this bc i pretty much exclusively cut tubing.

Doesn't have all the versatility of a band saw, but doesn't take up floor space and is a hell of a lot cheaper.

Should be here tomorrow. I ordered it through amazon, so if it disappoints me at all, it's going back and then I will be trying to find money for a band saw.

One of my gripes about the band saws I checked out was that their base/clamping table was not very large. Made me think I was going to have to do a lot of work setting up support on either side. How is the clamping setup on the balleigh?

 

[cliles]

Things that cut

While I somewhat got us on the topic of cutting things, I was thinking about purchasing another evolution saw to cut my aluminum plate for the dash.

7-1/4" Circular Saw

The plate I have is metric (millimeters), but I want to say it is somewhere between 1/8th and 1/4 inch thick.

Once again the videos are pretty impressive of it cutting 1/4" thick I-beams like they were plywood, but I'll be out almost $220 for something I will most likely not use very often. I have a very healthy 8-1/4" Makita circular saw that I was going to try to use (internet search yields mixed results, most people are cutting very thin aluminum), but if I **** it up then I am out $200 plus the $220 to buy the saw I probably should have used in the first place.

Motors are the same amperage. Makita rotates at 5,400 vs the Steelsaw1 turning around 3,900 RPM. From what I can tell that Steelsaw1 is not a worm saw or anything, RPM is the main difference. Blade has much larger arbor on Steelsaw1 so using the aluminum cutting blade on the makita is not an option.

Anybody have any experience with cutting aluminum plates without a shear (which would be ideal, but way out of budget)?

 

[Slapperbar]

I've cut 1/4" Al plate with a skill saw while active. We were ripping 4x12 sheets down to 4x4.

 

[Mr.Clean]

I know this may be a pricier option but thought I'd share none the less. I work for Dake Press Corp. We offer a huge line of saws including cold saws, vertical band saws, and horizontal band saws. Alot of our product can be seen on show suck as OCC Choppers, Gears, Trucks, Extreme 4x4, Horsepwer tv, and etc. you get the idea. If you have seen any of those shows you have seen our stuff. Like I said I know the stuff can be more on the pricy side but we are an American made company. I am a machinist here and I use all of our saws for different things. I use a horizontal band saw mainly and can cut 6" bar steel in about 45 seconds with it.

Dakecorp.com


One of our cold saws(will note these are imported from Thomas saws in Italy)

Vertical band saw 100% American made

Horizontal band saw 100% American made

 

[ryoken]

good stuff guys, thanks, I'll reply about the saws tonight..


quick super, freebie update tho here....

so, the whole Mutt flatbed, keep it, put a box on the back...

found a cool small, diamond plate, flatsided, Husky truck box from a smaller truck like a yota, etc... gonna pick that up Friday night for like $40.. should work great..








BUT in the process, I just scored a free $1000 dockbox... obviously too big for the truck... the smaller truck box will work better...

but it will do a nice job of replacing my material bins I think.... much neater, cleaner appearance for Lab ™......

heck, i'll use it out in the backyard if it don't work out for that....

$$$$ cha-ching! $$$$

 

[Chevy305]

If those things are $1000 put on CL for half that and use the profits to buy some goodies